rigs ?

Discussion of sea fishing rigs, clip down, wishbone, up and over, flapper and long distance rigs.
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rigs ?

Post by petersclan » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:04 pm

hiya,

Just wanted to ask you what rigs you mainly use and do you make them yourselves or buy them ready made?

i have been making my own with help from looking at other proper rigs but must admit that i am not using springs beads or shiney sequins etc

am i doing wrong and will this limit my chances

my rigs are 2 hook rigs using 3/0 hooks on fair lengh snoods

your input will be greatly appreciated



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Post by concrete » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:18 pm

I make all of my rigs for peace of mind and they are put together exactly as I want them. For most anglers a one up one down paternoster is probably the best all round rig. For out and out cod fishing I use a clipped down paternoster with 4/0 hooks pennell style. As I use a large bait I clip it to an impact shield rather than an impact lead. Large baits tend to come unclipped from impact leads during casting. The only rigs I use springs on are loop rigs and three hook clip downs, but I only use these rigs in matches. For pleasure fishing I like to keep things simple.....................Just like me :lol:

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Post by DuncBooth5 » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:22 pm

I make all my own rigs using a variety of bits like beads etc. I started out using a book (bait and rigs for beginners) and magazine articles. Once you get the hang of it, it's esay to adapt the basic designs to suit you.

Having just started using penell pulley rigs with some sucess, I can recommend these as I do seem to get a better strike rate on them.

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Post by slashley » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:22 pm

Have made my own for many years. Used to mess around with all sorts of rigs. I now only tend to make two different types and I use them Summer and Winter. Running ledger with about a two foot hook length and a bomber rig which is two hooks and clipped down on to one bait clip. Have caught all my cod/whiting etc on the bomber mainly ( as I use it most of the time ).
Only time I change from this is for more specialised stuff. I make up flappers with small hooks and maybe wire booms when I go sole fishing. When I go for bass I tend to make up a particular pattern suited to where I am fishing. ( such as rough ground type rigs with a weak link )
I don't use crimps or anything bought for the captive hook lengths. I have always used copper wiring plastic sleeving held in place by stop knots. If you are catching fish on your rigs I wouldn't have thought you were doing much wrong. Usually just a bit of tweaking necessary. Generally speaking most Summer type rigs I have seen used have had shortish hook lengths ( helps when you hook eels ) and Winter type rigs ( cod especially ) normally require longer ( maybe eighteen inch + ) hook lengths. I always have one hook length on the bomber rigs at about a foot and a half to two feet long and find this works for me. Be interested to hear others views. Hope this is of some help................

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Post by concrete » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:27 pm

The bomber is an excellent rig, but as with my cod rigs I use an impact shield as it holds the two baits better during casting.

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Post by slashley » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:30 pm

I agree concrete. Nothing worse than whacking one out to see and it ends up like a helicopter twisting round and round in mid air. :)

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Post by petersclan » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:32 pm

many good hints and tips there, my rigs are working as i have caught many fish but feel i need to apply longer snood lenghs

i have caught plenty of dogfish and pollack but would love the chance of a cod!

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Post by DuncBooth5 » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:32 pm

The way I cast, I could do with a helicopter to get the bait out!! :lol:

I'd have to look but I think most of my rigs have bait clips on of some sort or another and it's definately helped stop it all from tangling up before it reaches the water.

concrete

Post by concrete » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:34 pm

You could always use a helicpoter rig. It works you know.

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Post by DuncBooth5 » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:38 pm

Okay... not seen one of those and I'm at that crossroads that I often get to on here where I'm really not sure if someone's pulling my chain!! :lol: :lol:

If it exists (and I've no reason to doubt you Concrete other of course than an excellent track record on micheal extracting) what does it look like. If your reply is along the lines of Chinook, I'll bloody come down there and strangle you!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by slashley » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:41 pm

DuncBooth5 wrote:The way I cast, I could do with a helicopter to get the bait out!! :lol:

I'd have to look but I think most of my rigs have bait clips on of some sort or another and it's definately helped stop it all from tangling up before it reaches the water.
Nice one Dunc.. :) Did nearly knock the head off a seagull the other day near Cromer when casting. Got me thinking. Keep one as a pet and train him to fly out to sea with the weight. :)

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Post by petersclan » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:41 pm

dont think my lines are getting tangled on hitting the water but that may be because my snoods are not long enough

please enlighten me on bait clips? this may be something that i need to know about

sorry for sounding thick but only seriously started fishing this year

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Post by slashley » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:46 pm

They are a small component bought or made yerself that hold the hook lengths against the rig body. Hooks just clip under them. Better for casting and bait presentation. On hitting the water the hooks hopefully drop off the clip and do their thing. :)
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Post by concrete » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:46 pm

Seriously, I use this rig for sole fishing. It's a three hook rig with all three hooks below the weight and there's a smaller weight on the end of the rig. So in effect you have a three hook paternoster with a weight at either end, pinning the baits firmly on the sea bed. The reason it's called a helicopter rig is that the smaller weight orbits the larger one during the cast. This rig is totally unsuitable for any kind of distance casting, 50yards max.

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Post by DuncBooth5 » Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:47 pm

I've tried several and have finally settled on the mustad clips. They consist of a bit of wire the shape of a walking stick and some thin plastic tubing. Tubing goes on rig body and the 'walking stick' pushes into it. Once its in, you bend the non hooked end of the wir to 90 degrees with a pair of pliers. When you are baited up, you clip the hook to the bait clip (and with the mustad one, you can adjust the clip up and down for different lengths of snood) and chuck your rig as far as you can. The idea is that the bait will come unclipped when it hits the water and not before making for a streamlined cast and intact baits.

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