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Squid cocktail?

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:26 pm
by Jebend
Hello its me again! looking for some more advice before i go fishing thursday night, i was thinking today if i was to buy some squid and remove all the guts and everything and then fill it with off cuts of mackrel, lugworm etc, then bind it all together, compress it piece a few holes in it and then freeze it again, take fishing in a bait cooler and chuck it on the hook, maybe more of a safe cocktail to stop the crabs or anything getting at it, whats does everyone think?

Cheers Jebend.

Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 7:53 pm
by baitdigger
If it is Calamari, the small whole squid they are easy enough baits to make up as you use them.They are best mounted on a pennel rig and a pulley rig is ideal for most situations. You will need a decent hook size, I like 4/0 5/0 0r even 6/0 for a single squid.
Pull the 'wings' (small triangle flaps at the pointy end) off. These make it spin when casting. Then pull out the quill, the bit that looks like a piece of plastic.
Then thread your 'fixed' hook throught the pointy bit of the squid and draw it out inside the body cavity then tread onto the hook your worm or whatever you decide, at this time of year squid and lug is a classic cod bait. By pulling on your hooklength you are now able to draw your filling back into the body cavity. Secure the hook through the head of the squid then wrap it all up with elastic. Hold the bait with the floating hook wrapped around the hooklength a few times and nick through the tail.
It may hold the crabs back for a short time but it is an excellent bait and with a bit of practice gives a streamline presentation.

Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:58 pm
by Esskie
Hi there lads,
Just my tuppence worth on squid as a bait

I've been using baby squid stuffed with cart bait (mostly peeler) with great results for a wee while now.

A couple of lug then the baby squid double hooked, taking care not to squeeze the crab meat out, with just a couple of turns of elastic, just enough to hold it in place during casting but half of one of the lug can be bound at above and below the squid which protects it a bit.

they fit on a size 2/0 or 3/0 Aberdeen easily

Three times now using a 3 hook flapper this bait has out fished peeler on one of the other hooks and a lug & mussel cocktail on the third.

Still, it's down to the place and the fish on the day but something to try perhaps :)

Best of luck and best regards, Andy

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:41 am
by andy1_i
a little thing i do with whole squid prior to hooking it, make sure its defrosted abit then lay it flat on your bait board take a knife and cut a length from head to tail in effect cutting off a flap of about 5-10mm width this then allows you to open up the squid (dont just slice it open) load your pennel rig with lug/black as usual then then wrap the squid around with main hook in its head a few turns of laccy and hey presto a very streamlined bait (will take pics later to demonstrate) this method also allows the squid guts/juices to flow out easier.also a further cast is allowed with the streamlining,it sounds complicated and long winded but its not really ;)

all the best


Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:43 am
by tensenervoushaddock
all this worry about crabs !......they find your bait by the scent trail.... the scent trail is what you need to attract the fish.

Crabs mean you are doing it right..... but not doing it right often enough.

Very often the savage take that results in nothing is the result of a fish plucking a crab from your bait.... the crab can hang on enough to give the 'bite'. Gut a big shore caught cod and you are likely to find hard back crabs, it's what they are feeding on.

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 9:56 am
by andy1_i
tnh,i agree fella,a number of times ive found hardbacks in the guts,if i do manage to land a small hardback it goes right out back again on the hook