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Casting Worm baits?

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:08 pm
by Nem
Ello again, just another simply but stupid question to ask. I've never used worm baits but I'm planning on buying 20 or so ragworm tomorrow (and go fishing if the weather holds!). What I'm asking is how do you secure them on the hook? I'd guess that hooking once through the body would cause them to fly off as you cast. Should I use bait elastic for the top half of the worm and leave the rest dangle for movement?

Thanks for your time.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:20 pm
by crazy-dude
find the nasty nippy end of the worm.
insert the hook point just below the jaws and feed the worm on to the hook.
either push the worm halfway up the trace then pull the point out so that part of the worm is left dangling or you can feed the worm all the way up the hook and onto the trace. bait elastic can be used but it can make things a bit messy

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:10 am
by stuartdv
depends on alot of things- how powerful you cast, how soft your rod is and how good your worms are- if you dont cast too hard or if your rod is soft then you'll generally not lose too much of the rag. A lot of people say dip your rag in the water before you cast- I've tried it and it kind of works.

generally if you're casting in daylight you'll be able to see if you lose all the worms from the hook- if that happens, retrieve and bait up/cast again- bit more hit and miss in the dark - just try and thread as much as the worm through the hook and onto the snood as you can.

One alternative i can recommend is using a D-Vice- no worries about losing buts of your rag at all as they're protected inside the tube/capsule.

I've never bothered to use elastic on rag to be honest.

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:37 am
by eccles
Agree with Dude, best thing is a to use a clipped down rig as it is highly unlikely that you will lose the worms no matter how hard you cast the rig. I use the nylon mini-booms on my clipped down rigs to hold the snoods away from the rig body and help reduce tangling.

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:53 am
by Nem
Thanks alot for the quick replies :D
I see what you mean by the snoods Eccles, luckily I have a 2 hook flapper which has lasted me a good 15+ hours fishing (I usually manage to lose about 2 rigs every 4 hours :().

Will have to go fishing later today even if it is nearly 0c hehe, winds going to be too powerful in the next few days around here.

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:08 am
by Bread
If you have difficulty threading them onto the hook, use a baiting needle - they are only about a quid from the tackle shop.

Ask the guy in the tackle shop how to use them - it's easier to watch him than me explain.

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 2:36 pm
by Nem
Bread wrote:If you have difficulty threading them onto the hook, use a baiting needle - they are only about a quid from the tackle shop.

Ask the guy in the tackle shop how to use them - it's easier to watch him than me explain.
Heh, knew there was something I forgot to buy. Thanks for the reminder Bread :D
As for using it, I get the idea of how to after watching a video of Alan Yates (yep Bread, I know you're a big fan) showing how to hook lug and rag. Seems simple enough but I'll still end up poking my eye out.

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:01 pm
by Bread
Nem wrote:
Bread wrote:If you have difficulty threading them onto the hook, use a baiting needle - they are only about a quid from the tackle shop.

Ask the guy in the tackle shop how to use them - it's easier to watch him than me explain.
Heh, knew there was something I forgot to buy. Thanks for the reminder Bread :D
As for using it, I get the idea of how to after watching a video of Alan Yates (yep Bread, I know you're a big fan) showing how to hook lug and rag. Seems simple enough but I'll still end up poking my eye out.

Just remember to keep the tension on the line when threading the worm over and leave the end of the hook exposed.

Alan who ?

:D

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 3:50 pm
by concrete
Bread wrote:
Nem wrote:
Bread wrote:If you have difficulty threading them onto the hook, use a baiting needle - they are only about a quid from the tackle shop.

Ask the guy in the tackle shop how to use them - it's easier to watch him than me explain.
Heh, knew there was something I forgot to buy. Thanks for the reminder Bread :D
As for using it, I get the idea of how to after watching a video of Alan Yates (yep Bread, I know you're a big fan) showing how to hook lug and rag. Seems simple enough but I'll still end up poking my eye out.

Just remember to keep the tension on the line when threading the worm over and leave the end of the hook exposed.

Alan who ?

:D

The only tension I've experienced when fishing is when Dunc joins us :D

Roll on Sunday ;)

baiting needle

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:25 pm
by Adrenaline-Junky
Hi nem
go to your local tackle shop and ask for a baiting needle they only cost a few quid, you thread the worm on the needle then put the hook in the other end of the needle and thread the worm on the hook, there simple to use, just ask the tackle guy for a demo.

Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 11:47 pm
by Reels_on_wheels
Hi Nem
Have a look on this website. I asked a question about using sandeels and someone gave me this link.
I found it very informative.
http://www.allaboutangling.co.uk/page18.htm
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Reels

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:27 am
by thebigbassman
personally i would use lug if you can get them as they're better just like the welsh rugby team :D :D

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 5:12 pm
by thebigbassman
Reels_on_wheels wrote:Hi Nem
Have a look on this website. I asked a question about using sandeels and someone gave me this link.
I found it very informative.
http://www.allaboutangling.co.uk/page18.htm
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Reels
i think it was me as it rings a bell

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:41 pm
by crazy-dude
thebigbassman wrote:
Reels_on_wheels wrote:Hi Nem
Have a look on this website. I asked a question about using sandeels and someone gave me this link.
I found it very informative.
http://www.allaboutangling.co.uk/page18.htm
Hope this helps.
Cheers
Reels
i think it was me as it rings a bell
No BBM it was me

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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:44 pm
by thebigbassman
ok mate looking at the link it rung a bell but hey you can win something ;) ;) ;)