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Big rays

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Nobody has posted in here yet so i thought i would open the account :D

Went for a fish at my local marina wall last night for mulloway (google it 8) ) and got into some seriously big rays.

Landed an Eagle ray that would have gone 60-70lb after an hour struggle. Sounds like great fun i know but boy am i feeling it today in my back and arms 8O

landed a smaller one (about 20lb) and my mate got his rod busted trying to put the brakes on something that refused to stop with 30lb line.

I live in Oz by the way...just in case you were wondering!

Ian.



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Hi Ian,
Eagle ray that would have gone 60-70lb
and talk of broken rods :lol: fishing in Oz sounds fairly good to be honest :lol:
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p.s anyway stop rubbing it in! you have 70+ Rays we have Pout! :lol:

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Hi Ian

Sounds like great fun well done!

We also have big rays (common skate) in the UK but they're localised found at marks off the coast of Scotland .. (rays are sometimes called skate in the UK especially the larger ones) Common skate can easily reach over 200lb with commercial catches reporting up to 400lb! Thankfully tagging schemes have been introduced to protect the skate. They were once common on the UK South Coast but overfishing soon depleted stocks.

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Hi Simon,

Cheers mate! I have had a fish for common skate on a trip up to scotland a few years ago - didn't catch anything mind you. I come from Hampshire and moved to Oz 18 months ago - have had some smallish stingers from sowley area (although not for a few years) but nothing like the things we get here.

I have seen them up to 6-7ft accross (honestly) cruising the shallows of my local beach and have landed them up to an estimated 80lb on beach gear.

Some nights they are a bit of a pest when after different species as a hooked one takes up quite a bit of fishing time :wink:

I have got some mates coming over for a holiday in a couple of months so i will be sure to get them stuck into a couple of these- landing a fish of this size from the beach is a memorable experience :D

Ian

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Stingrays from Sowley eh? I'm planning to go after stingrays this year in the Solent. Sowley beach is now closed off to the public although I can fish near there from a kayak.

Had a paddle and fish near Pennington Marsh today. I plan to go after stingray there when its peak summertime & possibly Sowley way too. Large rag worm are supposed to be good for them.

Any tips on catching stingray would be greatly appreciated and might save me a season or more of 'guess work' before I catch one.

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Do you live in the lymington area Simon?? Thats my home patch :D

The only stingers we ever caught were accidental by catches but the Sowley/park shore area used to be well known for them - i believe the British record shore caught Stinger was caught at Sowley and stood for several years (or maybe it still stands... i dunno)

I have to say that i fished the sea wall for 25 years and never saw or heard of one being caught there although the sedge/mud combination should be a good habitat for them :roll:

Not sure about the viability of fishing for stingers from a Kayak though mate!!

King rag is definately the bait to use - go for a dig at Pennington marshes to the right of the Jetty and you should get some nice big ones - much better for stingers than the little ones you buy from the shops :wink:

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Thanks for that Ian.

I live Bournemouth way but my fishing is sometimes focussed in the central solent area. Sowley Beach is now closed to the public. The kayak will allow me to fish close in there. I'm not sure about the viability of catching a stinger from the kayak too!

I don't doubt that they are stable enough to handle bringing one up but what do I do when its at the surface! Perhaps a T-bar disgorger & releasing the fish when its in the water would work. I'll be fishing for smoothhound using rag anyway and a stingray is a realistic but perhaps rare by-catch.

Can ray extend their tails up and over (eg in a similar way scorpions can) or is the tail movement more lateral?

On my recce near Pennington Marsh I came across the sewerage outflow pipe there. Is the jetty further east from there?


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The only real danger from a stingray is if you stand it on or actually grab hold of the barb mate. I would'nt worry about it, just something to be aware of when handling them - best bet is to flip em over on their backs to remove the hooks.

If you are releasing them in the water, like you said a T-bar could be useful or perhaps the specialist long nose pliers you can get from most tackle shops.

The old sewage outflow is actually the jetty i am talking about. Digging to the right (west) of it can be hard work but well worth it for quality Ragworm in Summer- both harbour and king.

If you are after Smoothies with the odd chance of a stinger Park Shore is a good bet. I've caught both species there on Rag and Peeler.

Hope this helps mate - let us know how you get on.

Ian.

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Post by Speciman »

Thanks Ian this helps a lot. I will let you know how I get on.

I think after the next set of springs I will start to target this area. In the meantime I'm after bream in Poole Bay.

Is there much weed about where you fish? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Yeah weed and very strong winds can be a problem in the winter.

Also a very stiff onshore happens almost every day from about lunchtime during the summer and spring months and can make fishing quite difficult.

But hey....perth is the one of the sunniest places on the planet so i'm not going to moan about the weather! :lol: :lol:

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