Artical 47: A Sensible Reply

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Artical 47: A Sensible Reply

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Hi All
Finally got a sensible reply to an e-mail about Article 47,and how i read it is that it will aplly mainly to those who own or charter boats might be wrong but read and form your own opinions:



Dear Mr.

Thank you for your email of 20 January 2009 concerning Chapter V,
Article 47 of the Common Fisheries Policy.

As you may know, the ongoing reformations in the Common Fisheries Policy
are designed to improve control capacity and management of fisheries
resources and promote a level playing field for fisheries throughout the
European Union. These reformations seek to have a positive structural
impact on the fishing industry and market in able to best combat the
environmental, economic, and social consequences of policy
non-compliance. These goals can only be achieved through a new,
consistent approach to control and inspection, a culture of compliance
among fisheries, and an effective application of the rules governing the
Common Fisheries Policy.

In order to best achieve this desired culture of compliance and
consistency, it is necessary for recreational fisheries to be included
in Common Fisheries Policy. Chapter V, article 47 outlines the four new
conditions to which recreational fisheries will be subjected under the
new regulations. While I appreciate your concerns that such protocols
may become burdensome for the recreational angler, I do insist that such
measures are necessary in order to promote consistency in policy
application to all fisheries, both commercial and recreational,
throughout the European Union.

The regulations outlined in article 47 are designed to control and limit
the extent of recreational fishing through subjecting vessels to
authorisation issued by the flag member state. Furthermore, point 3 of
the article proposes that member states will establish a quota on
species subjected to multi-annual plans that will be reserved
exclusively for recreational fisheries. In this way, recreation
fisheries will not be limited in their catch but instead monitored
consistently in a fashion similar to commercial fisheries.

Once again, I appreciate your concerns and thank you for sharing your
views with me.

Yours sincerely,

Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne MEP

Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne MEP
Foreign Affairs Committee
European Parliament
ASP 10 G 209
Rue Wiertz B-1047 Brussels


Hope this makes it clearer
c yall
Seaferret



Smithy_A

Post by Smithy_A »

Sorry but this reply really doesnt help us "recreational" fishermen. Its just political speak. What is basically being said is that we understand your concerns but tough shit.

We need to make a petition of some sort. Our arguements are best heard in numbers.

If anyone else has had any response please post.

Cheers.

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Post by osean »

Hi smithy
There is a petion going at the moment, I have already signed it & had replies by return.
Google UKIP & scroll down their lists.
For those that do not know UKIP is the United Kingdom Indipendant Party, they are the political party that would like us to come out out the common market.
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Post by mudlark »

Smithy_A wrote:Sorry but this reply really doesnt help us "recreational" fishermen. Its just political speak. What is basically being said is that we understand your concerns but tough shit.

We need to make a petition of some sort. Our arguements are best heard in numbers.

If anyone else has had any response please post.

Cheers.
Nobody saw the EU press release then .....

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Post by squiresoak »

Article 5 (6) Clearly states that unless all the measures are implemented, EU funding will not be forthcoming. source:- http://www.sacn.org.uk/Opinion/Art-47---Background.html

What do you think our Government will do! It says it all really and it WILL affect shore angling to some extent.

sqiresoak

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Post by fosma »

Good article an Henry Gilbey's blog site, worth a read with a link to the petition.

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Post by MulletFly »

Perhaps the outcome will be that shore fishers require a licence (similar to the Enviromental Agency's approach to fresh water angling) with the addition of completing catch returns. Like to see them police it though!!

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It would take more to police it than the revenue they would collect. so in my opinion it would be a dead duck!

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Post by jacko69 »

policing it would be very easy but it would put an end to match fishing of any description for those of us who are against paying a licence fee or filling loads of paperwork every time we wet a line



Dave :D

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Post by cookiemonster »

Jacko no offense mate you say that policing it would be easy. Would you like to hazard a guess at how many people would be needed to police the coast of Britain. I wouldn't like to, as Keith said you couldn't police it. The government would probably just give it to our already overstretched navy to enforce and I think that you would agree they have a hard enough time doing their job now.

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Just checked UKIP and theres a poster to download. Print it off and get it in ur local tackle shop!!!!

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Post by stowaway »

You appear to have missed the title of this thread

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cookiemonster wrote:Jacko no offense mate you say that policing it would be easy. Would you like to hazard a guess at how many people would be needed to police the coast of Britain. I wouldn't like to, as Keith said you couldn't police it. The government would probably just give it to our already overstretched navy to enforce and I think that you would agree they have a hard enough time doing their job now.

Colin
They are not going to be able to police every part of the coastline that's for sure, they don't have to. They're not stupid, (matter of opinion) you can bet that they will know the favoured spots after all we will be telling them through forums like ours and many others like it. Unless we accept some sort of reform fishing will not be as enjoyable as today as you will always be looking over your shoulder for the bailif. Not to be pessimistic but no amount of petioning is going to stop it.

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Post by osean »

If this new ruling is sanctioned the policing would most likely be hit & miss with the chance checks similar to the fresh water style of doing things. I suspect if a fisherman is caught without 'licence' or 'above 'the quota then an example would be given, a heavy fine media cover anything that publicises the offence in a big way so that the rest of us take notice & tow the line.
But it has to be passed yet.
Did anyone see the protest yesterday on the news regarding oil refinery employing foreign labour instead of our own, well, at the same time there was a protest from fishermen regarding the article 47 proposal, I only caught the tail end so did not notice where it occurred or what happened.

Smithy_A

Post by Smithy_A »

stowaway wrote:You appear to have missed the title of this thread

What do you mean?

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