Running ledger

Reels_on_wheels · Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:45 pm Post subject: Running ledger

Forgive my ignorance but can someone please tell me what a running ledger is? I have heard people talking about it, have heard it mentioned on TV programs but I would like to know what it is, where to use it and for what.
Cheers
Reels

Reels_on_wheels · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:12 pm Post subject:

Hi Birnside
See the sliding boom mentioned on the link in this post, is it a special boom you get to do this. I have never used booms at all but I have looked about and there are so many different types. Is this the type of boom that is used: http://www.seafishingsupplies.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=157&cPath=59
or is it something different.
Cheers
Reels

thebigbassman · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject:

thats the 1 reels mate

eccles · Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject:

Just a little tip Reels: If you get some of those sliding booms (I use them a lot for flatty fishing), don't get the cheapies: I bought a packet from a scummy tackle shop last year (no names mentioned) and they nearly all busted within weeks. I do a fair old OTG cast which puts some pressure on them but they should not bust that easily. The good ones are a darker red colour than the rubbishy variety.

wotnofish · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:47 am Post subject:

tensenervoushaddock · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:00 am Post subject:

I only ever used those red booms when boat fishing; they are said to prevent tangling ( they don't) They are not necessary when beach casting, a simple snap swivel will do the job..... and cost you less.

The running leger, with a few variations, is the only rig I use in 95% of fishing situations.

wotnofish · Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject:

Don't you find that the snap swivel is too abrasive on the line TNH? That's why I started using the zip sliders.

Reels_on_wheels · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:30 pm Post subject:

Hi guys
I am looking for some more information about a running ledger. I bought some of the sliding booms and I was making some rigs up when I suddenly thought that there might be a guide for the length of the rig.
I have looked at many websites with images of this rig on it and I have the John Wilson book 'Guide to Bait and Rigs' but I wasn't sure if there was a guideline to follow or is it dependent on where you are fishing and what you are fishing for?
The shockleader I have on my reel is 50lb and I have a clipped swivel on the end of this to make it easier to change rigs.
I made the ledger up by having a swivel, 75cm of 50lb line with the sliding boom followed by a bead and then onto a swivel. From this swivel I have 80cm of 25lb line going onto a size 2/0 Aberdeen hook. All knots are grinner knots.
Would this be alright or should the lines be shorter, longer or I have got it way wrong.
Any feedback appreciated.
Cheers
Reels

crazy-dude · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject:

Hi reels
Would it be possible for you to post a picture so that we can see exactly what you mean?

This is what I would call a running ledger.

This is a similar set up using a sliding boom.

eccles · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:18 am Post subject:

Yep, that's about it crazy except I would put some neoprene tube/electrical cable sheath on the first 15 cms of the snood as that seems to reduce the risk of it tangling around the sinker.

tensenervoushaddock · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:04 am Post subject:

"the snap swivel is too abrasive on the line ?"
no. a good quality swivel will not abrade the line. On casting the swivel is up against the bead that protects the knot.
The boom shown in the photo above will surely collapse under casting forces..... it is a boat fishing setup where the rig is just lowered into the water.
The top photo looks better.... but..... instead of theading the line throught the lead loop use a snap swivel so that lead type or weight can easily be changed; then swap the ordinary swivel for a snap swivel so that the hook length can be changed easily.

crazy-dude · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:12 am Post subject:

thebigbassman · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:34 pm Post subject:

thats what i would call a running ledger i to was a bit confused

last night with reels' post but a photo would be nice if possible reels so we can see what you mean

we are all here to help each other and to learn off each other big grin

Reels_on_wheels · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:05 pm Post subject:

Hi folks

I have posted an image of the rig with a brief description of the length of line and what I have used to create the rig. I hope it makes sense.

Cheers
Reels

crazy-dude · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 11:11 pm Post subject:

Hi reels
I can see what you have done this rig will work but if the fish runs more than 75cm then it will pull on the rod.
Ideally a running ledger is used so that the fish doesn't feel any resistance when it picks up the bait.
If you don't like taking the swivel off your shockleader then use a snap link to attach the lead onto your shockleader so it is free running. then attach your snood/hooklength to the swivel on the end of the shockleader. that will give you the right setup but you won't have a buffer bead to protect the knot.