Sort of Newbie help (Shockleader)

Torsk · Occasional Joined: Sep 30, 2007 Posts: 83 Location: Essex

Hi,I am wonder is there a typical amount of shockleader to use with yr main line or is it up to the individual ?Would like peoples ideas on this so I know I have enough on my reel.Thanks guys .... happy

Dolph · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:33 pm Post subject:

Up to the individual to an extent really but I always measure 6 metres of line and then add 10 turns of my reel to it, it's a bit more than what Ive seen most use but I like a bit more as then it lasts longer before you re-apply the shockleader, main reason for this I suppose is laziness but I like to think of it as effciency.

dungyjim · Occasional Joined: Sep 29, 2005 Posts: 84

I always have between 6-8 turns on the reel, however you can have to much leader on the reel which makes it snake through the eyes, which in turn can get caught and then crack, you see your tackle flying out to sea about 500 yards unfortunately with no line attatched.

Nem · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: .

Would you say Shock Leader is necessary if you're fishing alone or use over-head casts?
I managed to get some for free and right now, I'm just using it to make rigs with tougue

Eclectic · Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:48 am Post subject:

For a very simple overhead cast I would have to say, much to many peoples distaste that if your doing a simple over-head thump. Then you are probably fine.

I dont think the over-the head thump would even load the rod enough to cause enough pressure on the line. Now if you are using the Off the ground, but overhead instead of round the side. Then thats a different matter.

But in all honesty mate, Shockleader is far from expensive. Not only does it protect your line from being overly stretched in the initial part of the cast, and therefore needing replacing more quickly. And of course if your pendulum casting or OTG, then it is a must, as the inertia put through the line is a considerable amount - to much for 20lb line.

But also with the stronger shockleader, it also protects your line when reeling in. The greater diameter makes it more brasion resistant. Again giving your main line a bit more longevity.

For the sum of £2.99 its a steal. As you can give your reel 4-5 turns, and have plenty for several rigs.

Torsk · Occasional Joined: Sep 30, 2007 Posts: 83 Location: Essex

Thanks guys been a great help .Can now sort my reel out with it and give it a try next outing .Thanks again

kieran · Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject:

i have mine the length of my rod and a half!

Reels_on_wheels · Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject:

Hi folks

I have read all the posts regarding shockleader but I am still puzzled by which knot to use. I thought the 'albright' knot would be sufficient but the other posts in East Coast Forum. Can someone advice me on a suitable knot to use when attaching my shockleader to the main line.

This has probably been covered numerous times but being a newbie I am a bit slow.

Keep it simple please as I am finding it hard to follow the knots. I have looked at 'Grog's Fishing Knots' and found it very useful but would still like to know what other people think.

Thanks

Dougy

Torsk · Occasional Joined: Sep 30, 2007 Posts: 83 Location: Essex

Hi reels ,after reading the comments when I attached mine I used this one http://neilmackellow.sea-angler.org/knot5.html
All seems fine too spose its down to what u feel best one to use !!

Reels_on_wheels · Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:55 am Post subject:

Many thanks Torsk, this looks simple enough for me to get my head around. I will attach my shockleader tonight.
All the best
Dougy

eccles · Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject:

A lot of folk now rate the Allbright knot - I have had it on one of my reels for the last 4 months without changing mainline or shockleader and it hasn't let me down yet. Also it is a very compact and "streamlined" knot which goes up through the rings easily.

Eclectic · Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject:

I use the Albright aswell. It stood the test. I had a heft Saturday night. The 20lb mainline snapped before the knot did. My brother reeled in my gear later on haha. With quite a bit of my mainline still attached.

Now my question is. Why the hell was he able to just real it when no matter how much walking along the beach trying to free it would get it to move a millimeter grrer angry

Reels_on_wheels · Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:29 pm Post subject: Shockleader knot

Hi folks
I just thought I would let other people know how I got in with my query regarding which knot to attach the shockleader with. I asked the question about which knot to use and I got a couple of replies.
Eventually I went with the 'albright' knot. Today I was fishing and had cast out but as I ended up getting snagged. I wheeled back and forth to try and release it with no joy. My biggest fear is that the line releases and I shoot over the back of the wheelchair. It sounds funny and it is but it sometimes hurts. Anyway, this snag was doing my head in and with my reel loaded with 25lb Okuma Ultramax attached to a 50lb shockleader with the 'albright' knot I pulled and pulled and managed to get it free and pull in a 6lb sinker with link attached to it. It just goes to show that the 'albright' knot is strong enough to handle a right good pull.
I would appreciate any thoughts on the strength of line I am using. I am using it because I am fishing from a quay and there is the possibility of dogfish and conger.
Do you think the main line is too heavy? I am casting a 4oz lead, sometimes 5oz depending on weather and current.
Any thought appreciated as I am relatively new coming back to the sport.
Thanks
Reels

eccles · Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:10 am Post subject:

Interestingly enough, I also use Okuma line but 20lb at 0.4 mm., and of course the Allbright knot. It seems to stand up to a lot of punishment - weed monster dragging and being tossed around in the shingle by the surf. I can cast well over 100 yds on a good day so I for one will stick with it. Agree with Andy that Conger handling is more to do with hook snood material - my mate uses wire but I don't bother with them meself.