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joliroger
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

When you buy a Beachcaster a max oz recommedation is issued ie 4-8oz for casting, as is the case with uptider, Bass rod etc,.... not cast in stone so to speak but a rough idea..............what is the maximum weight for a 2.5 lb test curve 'Carp rod', I've used on a regular basis 3oz but not gone over that.............are they capable of more ?????.

Another question in your opinion, what separates for example a 11.6' Bass rod from a 2.5 test curve Carp rod, apart from the blatant obvious

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

http://www.barbel.co.uk/site/articles/testcurves/test_curves.htm should give you a good idea. Think of the Bass rod as a bigger version of the match rod and carprod as the avon.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

A carp rod can generally cast upto 4 ounces, however over this i dare say your pushing your luck. however, cheaper carp rods will happily send 6 ounces of lead out as long as you dont try too hard, otherwise they will just buckle and shatter.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It really all depends on the test curve. Some Carp anglers can cast 5 oz 180 yards with bait but they are using 3.5lb test curve rods, usually Century FMJ's or the like and tournament reels like the Daiwa Basia. This kit will, in the right hands, cast extremely long distances on the field too, but do come at a very high price.

In relation to the Carp rod /Bass rod question, I'd say there aren't a lot of differences, apart from the fact that with Carp Rods there are many more different ones to choose from so you can find the exact rod your after. ie. length, test curve, action etc......
 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Cheers Guys for all your input and answers ...............JOLI
 
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

[quote="Thom"]A carp rod can generally cast upto 4 ounces, however over this i dare say your pushing your luck. however, cheaper carp rods will happily send 6 ounces of lead out as long as you dont try too hard, otherwise they will just buckle and shatter.[/quote]

Wot he said. happy

If the carp rod is an expensive lightweight thin walled job i would not go over its casting rating , a lifetime guarantee does not include compensation for a wrecked fishing trip.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:03 am Reply with quote Back to top

Have been reading the article from 'Chrisandboys' and in conclusion believe the test curve has no bearing on the capabilty of the rod re casting weight, my original question is more akin to asking 'how long is a piece of string' ??............ie different in every case !!!!!!!!!!........thanks anyway all of you guys for your input and I have learnt something.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 5:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I would have thought the test curve would be related to the weight that can be cast. After all, it is a measure of the load that can be applied to the rod before it can absorb no more energy, at which point the rod will be at risk of breaking. During a cast, the load put on the rod depends on the weight of the lead; so the bigger the test curve the bigger the lead it can handle.

I find an overloaded rod tends to feel sluggish during the cast, at which point you know you should use a lighter lead. Not sure that's a completely reliable guide though.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

hi MOLI big grin big grin big grin

my suggestion is
use a beachcaster at walton for carp....it wont work, carp fishing on the pier is very slow

also

using a carp rod, in a pond or lake for cod suprisingly gets the same results

moral of the story

dont ever use frozen black lug
you never catch naff all unless you are edwards73, who amazingly caught a nice little coddie on one last night

tight lines all big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin
 
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

joliroger wrote:
When you buy a Beachcaster a max oz recommedation is issued ie 4-8oz for casting, as is the case with uptider, Bass rod etc,.... not cast in stone so to speak but a rough idea..............what is the maximum weight for a 2.5 lb test curve 'Carp rod', I've used on a regular basis 3oz but not gone over that.............are they capable of more ?????.

Another question in your opinion, what separates for example a 11.6' Bass rod from a 2.5 test curve Carp rod, apart from the blatant obvious

JOLI


Joli
I have a 2.5 lb Harrison Angling Carp rod which I used for pike deadbaiting, I fished joey mackerel both on the lead and under a float. On this set up I hoooked and landed pike to over 20lb. Bigger baits I used a pair of 3.5lb test curve rods, but never landed an fish bigger than 20lb 4oz
I now use the 2.5lb rod for jellyworming and luring for pollack and bass. The maximum wieghts involved are a couple of ounces. The rod handles a lower weight much better and feels more responsive. The lighter test curve seems (imho) to absorb the crash dives of the pollack but also allows the fish to fight without the constant fear of pulling the hook which is ever present with a stiffer rod.

In these pictures you can see the difference between the 12ft 2.5lb test curve carp rod and a 12'6" greys BZE 3-5 0z bass rod.
I think all sea rods have to be built to withstand the environment and the constant pressure they undergo such as tideal pull and waves, carp rods can be thinner as the constant load is not as great (imho)

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I use a Mitchell carp rod for quite a lot of my shore fishing and although rated at 1.5 to 5oz I have ony use 4oz. Ideal for flattie bashing and at less than £30 what more do you need.
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