tecnical question on beach fishing

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:32 pm

hi,

this might seem a bit of a daft question but here goes

when i cast from the beach and put my rod back on the stand the end of my rod is going wild all the time, i am fishing of chesil beach dorset and there is a fair swell i know but when next to others there rods look still?

i do use weights with spikes on and tighten my line when the rod is on the stand but is there anything else that i could do to help

i would have no chance knowing wether i had a bite with a rod constantly dipping and whipping the way mine does!

or is this normal and just something to take for granted

many thanks

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 7:55 pm

What a very interesting query my friend. My rod has done the same, and still does on occasions. Sean (fishing buddy) 's rod rarely does. He can usually cast at least 30 yds further than I do and if there is any kind of wave action or clumps of weed close in, he will then support his rod as high as he can (to get above the waves/weed); he uses the single spike rod support so can do this quite easily. Having said that, do not be surprised if fish takes your bait within seconds of it hitting the water. We have just been having a session here where bass up to 4lbs have been doing precisely that - Sean caught 20 in a two hour session last week - almost unbelievable action but true. Yes he put them all back bar three. I went the following day and picked up bass on first and second cast within a 15 seconds of bait hitting the water. So how do I tell difference between wave action and bass action you may ask. Experience I suppose and noting that wave action is rhythmic and in line the waves hitting the shore whereas a bass tug is more pronounced and bends the rod that bit more. Even then I do not always get it right and sometimes reel in to find a school bass thrashing about that I did not know was there. Another factor just could be your rod: I used to use a fairly whippy top but now use a much stiffer one as the wind and waves of autumn dictate it in my view - still use the whippy top but only on calm days.

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:54 pm

thanks,

that is along the lines of what i was thinking, cast out as far as possible to get over the breakers and then get the rod as high as possible, i have been using a rod rest that makes my rods sit on a 45 degree angle! probably a big mistake and i need to enhance my casting a bit to i recon. my rods are quite whippy so again this will need addressing.

many thanks for your help, all seems clearer and will be adhered to on my next venture

cheers

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 7:49 am

[quote="petersclan"]hi,

when i cast from the beach and put my rod back on the stand the end of my rod is going wild all the time, i am fishing of chesil beach dorset and there is a fair swell i know but when next to others there rods look still?

or is this normal and just something to take for granted

many thanks[/quote

Hi petersclan,

One question for you......
:?: WHAT ROD ARE YOU USING????

Many thanks
HoOkEd (John)

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:48 am

hi,

we are using 2 12ft beach casters, unfortunatly not expensive ones but one has a fairly stiff tip and the other is fairly whippy, i am guessing that stiff tipped rods might be better for this kind of fishing, am i correct?

Guest

We've recently swapped our rests for a Daiwa on which are a bit heavier but are more sturdy and will allow you to get your rods almost vertical, even in a reasonable blow. We have found that this helps although if the wind does get up it causes the rod to vibrate rather than nod. In that situation, unless you get a fair knock, it's difficult to tell a bite from a blow but we leave the rod a bit longer on the basis that if theres a fish there, it will probably still be there when you reel in to change bait.

I wouldnt worry about how cheap your kit is. I've got a 12 foot red wolf which my missus bought when I started which cost £35 with the reel! The other is a 13 foot Browning Exocet that I bought for a tenner and had to whip the rings on myself! They have both performed very well when required and I've had no real problems seeing a bite if it's there. To be quite honest, I'm probablynot good enough yet to make use of a more expensive bit of kit but it doesn't stop me looking! So long as it's catching, who cares how much it cost-a blank day is a blank day whether you spent a hundred quid or a thousand.

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 10:42 pm

petersclan wrote:

hi,

we are using 2 12ft beach casters, unfortunatly not expensive ones but one has a fairly stiff tip and the other is fairly whippy, i am guessing that stiff tipped rods might be better for this kind of fishing, am i correct?

If your rods are whipping in the breeze when all around you other anglers rods are sitting still you can most probably put it down to the quality of you rod.

I have a £15 beach caster that bounces in the slightest of breezes as though a shoal of piranhas have got hold of the bait.... whereas other rods of mine of better build will sit there solid.

I upgraded for better bite detection..... still don't catch anything.... LOL :wink:

Good luck
HoOkEd

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:22 pm

loads of usefull info, thanks a lot.

you have probably guessed that im no expert but am trying to learn a new art in wich is not as simple as people might think, we are doing it really to get us out rather than squatting in front of the telly, and to tell the truth we are getting quite hooked

cheers to all for help

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 12:57 pm

If you are wanting to learn you could join a club, there are clubs at Weymouth and West Bay that fish Chesil and nearby beaches regularly. I'm sure you will get help and advice from members at either... and get to see how the top guys fish. Clubs are not expensive to join and matches are a great learning experience....... but be prepared to be amazed at what some guys can produce from areas "which are not fishing well"

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:03 pm

[quote="petersclan"]loads of usefull info, thanks a lot.

you have probably guessed that im no expert but am trying to learn a new art in wich is not as simple as people might think, we are doing it really to get us out rather than squatting in front of the telly, and to tell the truth we are getting quite hooked

cheers to all for help[/quote

Hi Petersclan.... big grin

Most of us start with little or no knowledge about the art of fishing, but after the first few bites that land a fish many a person is then hooked with this hobby. I guess it is the hunter instinct we inherit from our ancestors... many of go on to bare all extremes of weather to indulge in pleasure.

What you find is that most anglers will pass the time chatting and sharing their knowledge and also tackle shops, who I know have a vested interest in you becoming hooked on angling, but also usually have an interest in fishing themselves.

Magazines are ok, but active FORUMS like this one can give you upto date information about how an area is fishing, and members of various skill and experience can also give advice.

One thing to remeber is that alot advice on equipment is someones oppinion and sometimes their comments can cause length debates over which is best as others can have a different oppinion on the same subject.

Technical specification on reel, rods etc are given for the angler who wants to fish a particular way or for particular types of fish ie a BASS ROD is for bass fishing but can be used for other types of fishing aswell but the angler likes the way the rod behaves and reacts to fish bites.

Hope you are writting reports about your fishing adventures and posting them on this form for us all to enjoy and photos always go down well.

Tight Lines
HoOkEd

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:40 pm

hi,

joining clubs is something that i do agree with and appreciate the suggestion but this time i am doing a sport just for myself, i have done many different sports before and joined clubs as a very dedicated follower but in the end it sort of took over my life. Fishing is something i just want to get into and do alone when and where i want to.

This site is very helpfull and i have gained loads of advice (thanks to all) and i enjoy reading the posts when un able to fish