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dappers
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hiya
Newbie to sea fishing and was casting OK but bit erratic and lacking distance. Found this link and it has improved my distance by 30-50 yards (now casting 55 yards!!! rolling on the floor devil ) and made my casting much more accurate and straight. I put a straight lead on and after 2 or 3 so so casts I managed to cast out 20 or 30 times all to the same place
I know there are a lot of videos out there but this seemed the best explained and easiest to follow.
Hope it helps somebody out there
big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin big grin
(I'm a happy bunny now)
www.totalseamagazine.com/Videos/category_1/video_44/

PS hope the link woks.1st time I've tried it????


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Anybody found this link to be any good??
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

watched the link going to try next time i am out my casting is a bit naff big grin
 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The bit I also missed was I was doing it with a new multiplier and that seemed to help (especially with the grip of the rod compared to a fixed spool)
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I learnt to pendulum cast from one of John Holdens books happy
Actually I have his casting video too happy
Makes it look so easy which it is really happy
cheers
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks, Watched the link, I think i now know where I am going wrong, Bet you can't guess who is going to try them out this week end.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:31 am Reply with quote Back to top

Let me know how you get on cos I know the difference to me was ten fold
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:42 am Reply with quote Back to top

I think there are better videos/instructors out there, this guy seems to miss out at least two important points. I prefer the vids of John Holden and Neil Mackellow. I do not claim to be an expert but taught myself OTG casting a lot better from what John & Neil had to say. I suppose I can now do close to 150 yds on a good day which ain't too bad for a pensioner and is certainly adequate for most venues. You will hear about 200 yd casting from some quarters which very few actually achieve and in most venues is not actually necessary to catch fish. My mate can actually achieve it but he is a very big guy and a lot younger than me.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:30 am Reply with quote Back to top

Eccles
Do you have a link or any info on these 2 casting vids?
I found this one to be pretty good the way I was casting at the time (pretty go---mn awful). I agree it is pretty basic and short, but for a newbie I think it is short and basic enough to get me started.
Now I've got the gist of it could do with a bit more tuition.
PS hows the book going??
dappers
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yes mate here is the link to Neil Mackellow's stuff: http://neilmackellow.sea-angler.org/. The bits which Roger Mortimore fails to mention are:-
1. The sinker will generally travel in the direction you are looking therefore it is important to look upwards at an angle of around 40-45 degrees as you come round towards the water NOT at the horizon as so many folk do. This is because height gives you more distance.
2. The sinker must be laying on the ground at right angles to the rod when you start (roughly in the 2 o'clock postion, where 6 o'clock is where the water is.
3. When the rod tip is almost round towards the water and above head height you do need to put some power in. This is achieved by punching out and up with the right arm, almost as a javelin thrower would do. Of course you pull back with the left hand on the bottom of the rod as Mortimore says.
Personally I do the version suggested by John Holden these days where the sinker is swung round behind you and as it reaches the horizontal position, you start to swing the rod tip round in the usual way. This puts a bit more of a bend in the rod tip. It does need a bit of practice though and is hard to do with some of the long rods which are out there today; that is why I stick to 12/13 ft rods. I haven't got a link to John Holden's stuff but you should be able to find it with Google - it amy be on Utube if I recall correctly.
No, I don't do pendulum as I am not interested in tourny casting and it looks a bit too complicated to start at my age.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

dappers wrote:
Eccles
Do you have a link or any info on these 2 casting vids?
I found this one to be pretty good the way I was casting at the time (pretty go---mn awful). I agree it is pretty basic and short, but for a newbie I think it is short and basic enough to get me started.
Now I've got the gist of it could do with a bit more tuition.
PS hows the book going??
dappers
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Like you said mate- If i were you I'd get meself some tuition from a proper instructor- you'll never look back - learn proper basic technique then develop your own style rather than caopying other peoples mistakes
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

As i've said in previous posts although newbie to sea, done a lot of coarse, so casting isnt totally alien.
Now i've found how to load the rod, the rest has been fairly natural with a multiplier.
HOWEVER, how do you cast OTG with a fixed spool. Cant seem to get comfortable grip. Hands twisted all over the place, release of line awkward and dont seem to be able to load the rod as well or cast as straight??
Any thoughts or is it just a newbie being a newbie??
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Can't really say anything but practice mate and thought. I use a FS reel all the time, mainly because I do most fishing at night, with no big problem but I did practice quite a bit during the day when I started until I was satisfied with what I was achieving. You may like to try different lengths of drop: One of my rods is a lightweight job with quite a floppy tip and that does better with a fairly short drop - about 5ft. I have another heavier rod with less flex in the tip and that seems best with a drop of about 6 1/2 ft.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Cheers eccles
The actual problem I seem to have with FS casting is when I release the line. seem to lose grip and confidence at the same time causing me to pull the cast a bit.
Is this what they use triggers for?? and what are they? Any good?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

OK mate, know what you mean. Some guys use a leather finger stop so there is no risk of getting your finger sliced. I don't myself but do occasionally suffer from a mis-cast (who doesn't?). Have you considered practicing with just a two oz sinker and no rig. You won't get so much bend in the rod but it really won't matter too much if you cock it up and that may help you confidence. I do of course realise that the whole business is to do with co-ordination and some of us are better at it than others. However, I also believe that a few hours practice, even starting with an empty rod in the back garden will eventually get you to the point where you are doing it automatically. Golf swings seem to be in the same bracket and my bro who is a bit of a local golf hero still reckons on a couple of hours driving practice every week.
 
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