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stroodsue Advanced User


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject: which colour bead for which fish species?? |
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hiya all
we are wondering which colour beads have been found the best to find which speacies of fish??
how many to put on?? and where actually to thread them~?
all help welcome!! lol.. comp in a week we need to try everything
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h4ppy-chris Boat Owners Moderator


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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hi Sue
green and black for the flatis about 8 of them and about 3 inch up from the hook  |
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stroodsue Advanced User


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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*noted* great thank you !!
i look forward to getting more tips!!
Sue |
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manic_muppet NE Coast Moderator


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, a difference of opinion here, ive read all white beads for flatties. Tightlines..Mick
PS, thats from the Concise encyclopedia of fishing. |
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h4ppy-chris Boat Owners Moderator


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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hmmm try green white black may be a killer rig  |
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stroodsue Advanced User


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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oooooooooooo its getting better now!! lol
come on boys get your tips in here!! i'm waiting!!
Sue |
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manic_muppet NE Coast Moderator


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Or, try white on one snood, and a different colour, or colours on another and see what happens.  |
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stroodsue Advanced User


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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good idea.. amnic
i've made up 10 2 hook pattyes so far no beads n thought sue you silly mare!!! talk to the boys!!
i like the sound of a "killer rig"
Sue |
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mudlark Occasional


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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For Plaice and Dabs, reds yellows blacks oranges etc. But for Flounders, certainly around my way all colours come a very poor second to white. I've done well with white plastic Flounder spoons, white beads and I even use the long white booms from Cox and Rawle for them. The theory is (for Flounder anyway) that when they see the white beads or whatever they think its a smaller fish trying to get the bait and go for it first. Whatever colour or colours you plump for fish them just above the hook.
Personally I wouldn't bother unless the water is clear. Standard method of targetting them round here is a three boom rig with No4 fine wire aberdeens. Heat the bend (and only the bend) of the aberdeens a few times with a lighter and let them cool in the air as this softens the metal. Cast said rig baited out short with Maddies or Ragworm into a depression, gulley, by the side of a patch of rough ground or alongside a beach groin (especially in shaded water) etc and once you have got everything to settle and you know the lead is not moving let off some slack line from your rod as this will ensure that all baits are on the bottom.
This is the tuffy ..... ignore the rod for 20 - 30 minutes despite any rattles you get. The only time you pick it up is when you think you are going to lose your rod early. There are a couple of reasons for this. Firstly the fish will happily hook themselves by this method but strikes will often lose you a lot of fish and secondly Flounders shoal and if one fish is hooked and begins to flap about it is likely to attract others - this is often why one particular angler can catch them 3 at a time.
Finally don't be afraid of deep hooking - if you have one deep hooked and you cant reach the hook you can pull the trace gently and,if you've softened the hook well enough it will straighten and pull out easily. Studies have also proven that fish survive fine if you cut off the snood and leave the hook in them to loose themselves.
incidentially these tactics work every bit as good for sole and dabs - sorry a bit war and peace but i was bored anyway  |
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stroodsue Advanced User


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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hehe thank you mudlark.. bored or not you gave good advise!!!!
Sue |
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mudlark Occasional


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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hehe thank you mudlark.. bored or not you gave good advise!!!!
Sue |
Might be preaching to the converted but don't be afraid to fish in extremely shallow water either - flounders will follow the tide along gulleys etc in 2 inches of water and I've caught Sole and Flounder right under the rod top, against the sea wall i was standing on with only a foot of water there. Without fail I've always found round my way that the bigger Flounders come out in the daylight, loads of postage stamps at night. They'll be fighting fit right now and feeding up ready to head out to spawn after Christmas ..... bit early for them round my way as yet but not long now  |
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h4ppy-chris Boat Owners Moderator


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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good post mudlark  |
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rabbi2 NW Coast / General Moderator


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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And sound advise. Cheers keith  |
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conehead Occasional


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Good advice mudlark  |
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stroodsue Advanced User


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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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well i've made several 2 hook patties with orange n green, yellow n red plain yellow so will try em out tomorrow night at gravesend!! let you know how we get on n hope we catch FISH!!
but keep on with the bead designs!! please
willing to give all a try!!
sue |
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