Pully Pennel Rigs...

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:36 pm

I often use pully pennel rigs for my cod fishing but i have two problems with them. When fishing with them they either dont release from the clip (and this isnt because the baits jammed up inside it and the hook size is 4/0's) or the hooklength of 25lb is tangling up around the body of the rig, its not down to cheap line as im using sakuma shockleader in 70lb and 25lb amnesia for hooks, any helop?

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 1:32 pm

i also use amnesia in the same breaking strain an 60lb for my rig body and have no problems with it twisting tho the rig does get all twisted aftera few sessions so then i simply re-tie it, the reason it is not releasing is either that it is all twisted on landing so wont release or u have the impact shield set up wrong. i favor the pulley for the fact that i have never had any problems with it releasing on big baits the reason for the twist could be that it is twisting when it is being cast out so try streamlining your baits...

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 3:39 pm

Do you think it could be if the main swivel connecting rig to shockleader couldbe to tight or lose because in theory this would effect the release

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 8:58 pm

Thom wrote:

I often use pully pennel rigs for my cod fishing but i have two problems with them. When fishing with them they either dont release from the clip (and this isnt because the baits jammed up inside it and the hook size is 4/0's) or the hooklength of 25lb is tangling up around the body of the rig, its not down to cheap line as im using sakuma shockleader in 70lb and 25lb amnesia for hooks, any helop?

which type of bait clips do you use?

geejayy.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:17 am

The red breakaway impact shields, i dont feel asif its them that are the problem as bait is kept tidy the hooks are the correct size but i do feel the rigs tensioning might be wrong, on a pully rig is the main swivel(joins to shockleader) supposed to be right up against the bead the stops it going to far along the rig? And if yes then do i just make it like a normal flapper rig where the rig hooklength is just the right length to reach the clip?

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:07 am

thom,
sorry if this seems like a bit of an idiots guide, but i'll try to cover as many reasons as i can think of that stop impact shields releasing.

mmmn, ok i'll start at the bottom of the rig ,it's just possible, (but not very likely) that too much or too tight a rubber tube on the bottom of the sheild may restrict the upward movement that trips the clip. i use approx a quarter of an inch.
above the sheild must be a bead stopped with a crimp to trip the sheild when driven against it by water pressure.
occasionally in the dark i've trapped the hook between the line and the shield :roll: they definately won't release then,

snoods, yes light line snoods will twist around the rig body which b4 casting if badly this may stop the clip releaseing
as i use pulley rigs to target big fish ( well may be one day big grin

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i use 30-60lb line for snood material this stiffer line is less likely to twist up but it still does a bit .
to help with this, use a swiveled lead link and before you cast a rebaited rig let the weight and the hook length untwist before clipping the hook down.

snood length, obviously the snood needs to be slightly shorter than the rig body or it won't clipdown , i don't have the pulley swivel tight up against the snood swivel when clipped down but it slides to within an inch or so of the snood swivel as i clipp it down .
ofter as i loose a few hooks and retie fresh ones the snood length gets reduced,( sometimes drastically) this increases the line twist problem but it all releases ok as long as i untwist the rig as far as ican beforecasting.

i think amnesia line is too supple a line for this type of rig
that is where the problem lies i think.

hope this lot helps

geejayy, ps yes you could use them as flappers.

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:25 pm

try buying a pulley rig from the shop if possible get different ones and see if your still having the same problem if you are then is probaly due to your cast or the way the bait is sitting... and if you have no problems with the one that you brought from the shop then just copy it to make your own. also for the swivel that you use to connect the pulley rig to your main line this needs to be big i use a oversizeswivel for this as the line will run though it much more cleaner and freeley than a small one

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 4:53 pm

today i knocked up a few pully rigs, 5 in total, with all slightly diffent set ups rangin from hooklengths to rigs lengths and hook size to rig tension, trying them out tonight because were on the wear due to the sea state and hopefully ill be able to find where my problem lies ill give ya the feedback tommorra

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:15 pm

i discovered my problem... i used to have the shockleader swivel tight aginst the bead upto the hooklength at the top of the rig, i made my rig so the swivel sat about an inch away and it works perfectly fine now and i landed 8 codling and kept four each over two pound. Thanks for the help

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:59 pm

glad u sorted it... i some times fish it with a very short length of line between the weight and connecting swivel so you get a very long hooklength sometimes makes a difference between getting a bite and not

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:55 pm

nice 1 m8 , glad u sorted it,

gj.