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cookiemonster
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It's not about distance it whether you are finding the fish. I can cast about 100 yards when I use my fix spool but I'm lucky if I get more than 35 yards with my multiplier so I would say just go with what you feel is right. If you are really worried about your casting find a local field and practice casting in it with only a weight on the end and eventually you will find your cast gradually going further and further...Colin
 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Many years I used to fish Cliffe in Kent at Lower Hope Point, all the comments I have read bought to mind one particular trip in the middle of winter when I was fishing. There were two of us, all I had was my uncle's old bamboo rod - way out of date - a cheap reel and a 9ft pier rod, anyway way I cast out my meagre bits not to far because I was only a beginner, put my rods up on my rest, which i had made a work - being a welder . Walked up to the other chap fishing he was telling me how much I needed to get this really supersonic rod, believe some double taper something, one of my rods bells rang walked back to my rod and retreived my first cod of the night. This sequence occured many times that night, after about the fourth time the other fisherman would not talk to me. I went home that night, best I can remember, with about six or seven codloing running roughly around the 8lb mark, nice fish. He went home with nothing. My pier rod took the heaviest fish yet it was the closest in. So does distance really matter. If the fish are there you'll catch them. Does it really matter how good the rods and reels, they might look nice.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 5:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

My sentiments exactly big grin big grin big grin
 
eccles
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You are right of course bowave, except that one does need a reel which won't fall to bits after a couple of months in salt water conditions and they seem to start somewhere around £20-25. As far as rods are concerned, I still use my £17 Cormoran when hunting flatties - it doesn't cast that far but the somewhat floppy tip will detect the slightest tremble from a sole or dab. However if I want to chuck the bait out a fair distance I do swap over to a carbon rod which cost me £60. Those £200 rods just aren't necessary to catch fish although one may need them to do tournament casting which is not of course anything to do with catching fish.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The further you can cast results in a broader area you can cover to find fish so no matter which way you look at it, the big casters always have an advantage. Similarly though, don't forget bait quality as it is equally as important. I have regularly been beaten in matches by guys that only cast 50 yards but have much better bait than me - even though I can cast miles further than them.

There is more to fishing than a big cast - but a big cast helps as the fish might not be close in.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

the further you cast the further you have to bring a fish in from therfore increasing your chances of losing that fish.....Colin smug smug smug smug
 
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

cookiemonster wrote:
the further you cast the further you have to bring a fish in from therfore increasing your chances oflosing that fish.....Colin smug smug smug smug


Not really. Its very rare a fish comes off if the hook is set correctly - in fact the bites become less detectable the further out you go as the mono stretches and therefore doesn't rattle the tip like it normally does when close in. For this reason the rod is left for a full 20mins before retrieving and it is only then you realise the fish is on. I have had loads of fish - including 4lb+ codling that I have not seen the bite but managed to haul the fish.

Fish only come off if you do not retrieve smoothly keeping the tension on - or by using hooks that are blunt or not suitable (such as barbless hooks).

Hope that helps Colin.
 
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