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gunsnroses
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

hi guys how far would u think u have to cast confused confused confused confused confused cause i can only cast about 30-40 yards and i dont think thats far enought angry angry crying crying
 
dazzaman
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi I would say that it is far enough for flatties and bass even off shallow beaches.May need extra distance to reach the winter cod and the summer smoothies 100yrds plus
You can cast over feeding fish as easily as you can fall short of them
With practice your distance will increase,then you`ll have a better chance of varying your cast to locate the fish
I normally drop one short(40-50 yrds) and one further out(100yrds plus)
This is just my opinion,other peoples replies may vary,keep an open mind we are all always learning something new and asking others for advice
Cheers Darren cool cool cool
 
GaryBadd
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

ive caught flounders in less then 2ft of water even had bass in the shallows , your be surprised how many different fish tend to come in close to feed , have a look n youtube about casting then just pop over your local field and try to copy the cast , gl
Gary
 
eccles
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 4:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I do the same as Dazzaman us usually and I used to be crap at casting until I learned "off the ground style" a while ago. It doesn't take a huge amount of muscle, just right technique and can now do over 100 yds with ease which can't be bad at my age. A 12 or 13 ft rod works best for me and you need about a 6ft drop to your sinker to get a decent bend in the rod and acceleration of the sinker. I now do the "airialised" version of this cast as taught by John Holden - I think there are some of his videos on Utube but in case you can't find them have a look at what Neil Mackellow is doing here: http://neilmackellow.sea-angler.org/
 
kingfisher14
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

for winter cod you need to be casting 80 yards and at very shallow beaches 100 yards pluss, but at most shingle beaches you will catch cod at 80 yards when its dark. Im not trying to put you down but if your only casting 30-40 yards you have a very slim chance of catching cod. you will just get whiting and pouting. my first 3 winters of cod fishing i never caught a cod and then when i started practicing on the feild my distance got better then the next winter i caught cod. just with off the ground cast you can get over 140 yards
 
eccles
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Maybe he don't want cod, maybe he woud be happy with bass - can get them at 30/40 yds at night.
 
shannock
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

what ever you do dont get put off that you wont be casting milesi messed up a cast on my local beach that landed 30ft out
i pretended that i mean't to do that as i had two peeps watching

5 mins later i pulled in a 1lb plus flounder now every time i go to that beach i keep trying 30ft out and have had a dozen or more 1lb plus flounders on prawn and 2 bass about ilb and 2 turbot 12oz ish

so try close in every body and gun n roses good luck you dont need to be far out
also have some fun on the field learning a new cast

cheers mate steve
 
sim66
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Most people i know who fish two rod,fish one long and one short!!!
i tend to keep altering the distances until i find the fish if there are any there crying crying crying

Tight lines

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steveseagull
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Am i correct in thinking that if fishing off shingle beaches you need at least to plonk your bait on the sand further out?
I know mackeral and maybe bass come in closer but on the whole the bait needs to be on the feeding beds?
 
GaryBadd
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

i do agree with some of the posted , but if i want to go flattie bashing i go over magazine lane and walk just past the creek on the left and to be honest its very very shallow for the first 30yards its about 2ft deep and i cast in that area for flounders , depending what fish your going for the depth and ground plays into it , also the backwater at calshot is very shallow which Ive had flounders and bass from there , i love beach fishing but ever now and then i like to just skip the busy summer beaches and fish the less heard of place's is more of a challenge so its what ever takes your fancy, gl
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eccles
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

steveseagull wrote:
Am i correct in thinking that if fishing off shingle beaches you need at least to plonk your bait on the sand further out?
I know mackeral and maybe bass come in closer but on the whole the bait needs to be on the feeding beds?

Ah well Steve, that depends on where the feeding beds are and this is where a bit of research can often pay off. Can I suggest that you visit your beaches at low water springs and have a good look around. For example I know a gent who has discovered that about 80 yds off shore at a certain location there is a shallow gulley which shows a lot of worm activity. At high water at night he aims for that gulley and can at times get a bite every 10 minutes - not surprising really is it?
 
kingfisher14
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

eccles wrote:
Maybe he don't want cod, maybe he woud be happy with bass - can get them at 30/40 yds at night.
you dnt get many bass in the winter
 
zziply
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It all depends on the venue. I've known people to give me a good thrashing in matches by casting 30 yards when I've been banging baits out a long way.

Have a look at the spot at low water and see what the features are - then cast into them when fishing. You can always get casting lessons if you want to improve.
 
eccles
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

kingfisher14 wrote:
you dnt get many bass in the winter

You do on Hayling - we were catching them right up to the middle of January this year, we had one session in mid December when we had over 20 up to around 4 lb
 
villevalo
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Joined: Jul 12, 2008
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Location: Plymouth, Devon

PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:23 am Reply with quote Back to top

Having only recently restarted fishing after a 14 year gap, hard to fish when your in a submarine confused , My casting is rusty to say the least.

Most I'm getting at the moment is 40/50 yards myself. That said, caught a bass Sunday night with a cast that was no more than 35 yards. and it took the bait (prawn) whilst I was reeling in to try for a greater distance.

Just keep trying and I'm sure distance will come with practice.

Phil
 
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