Almost complete novice needs help!!!

Member Joined: Jun 23, 2008 Posts: 9

I haven't been fishing since I was a girl when I used to go with my Dad (probably 25 years ago), but I want to try again with my own family. I have inherited some old rods and reels from my father. I have thrown out the most rusty! Is it worth trying to clean up and re-use old reels? There are a couple of "ordinary reels" and a multiplier. Can anyone recommend any books which show you how to do this? Most of the stuff I have seen on the internet is far too advanced.

If the rings on the rods are rusty can they be cleaned up or replaced, or is this just a hopeless task?

Alternatively, if I was to start again, what would be your advice for new, not too expensive kit. I suppose we will be trying to fish from rocks, beach, pier or harbour - depending where we visit. But I can only afford one rod and one reel to start with! Again, recommended books would also be helpful!

I can't remember anything about lines, leaders, rigs or anything useful! I have a few smallish hooks and some larger ones! (See how clueless I am!) and some very old floats. Also a few weights. The rest of the kit was rusty and has been thrown away.

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:43 pm

If the rings are rust then I would sugest that you purchase a new rod unless of course it was an expensive rod or it has sentimental value to you. You could possibly purchase a rod for less money that the cost of re-ringing a rod.
Have a look at the Shakespear Beachcasrters, Quality at a fair and reasonable price.
You dont say if you want a multiplier or a fixed spool reel.

If its a fixed spool reel that you will be using then make sure you have a rod rung for a fixed spool. Hope this helps. keith.

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:59 pm

Welcome

I`d be with rabbi2 on this one big grin

wishing you tight lines in your somewhat re-kindled persuit
Cheers Darren cool

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:42 pm

Hi saucebox, welcome to the forum.

I agree with rabbi2 you can't go wrong with Shakespeare for value, i have just brought a Salt FS cost me £50.00 really good rod for that price range.

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:55 pm

Just to remind you guys that Shakespear have taken over Penn and as I said in one of my previous posts we look forward to getting good gear at a fair price, even if it's got the Penn naame on it. lol

Member Joined: Jun 23, 2008 Posts: 9

rabbi2 wrote:

If the rings are rust then I would sugest that you purchase a new rod unless of course it was an expensive rod or it has sentimental value to you.

You could possibly purchase a rod for less money that the cost of re-ringing a rod.
Have a look at the Shakespear Beachcasrters, Quality at a fair and reasonable price.

You dont say if you want a multiplier or a fixed spool reel.

If its a fixed spool reel that you will be using then make sure you have a rod rung for a fixed spool. Hope this helps. keith.

I wouldn't know if the rods were expensive when bought! Too many years ago! What would be a reasonable length - I suppose we are less likely to be beachcasting than going to rocks or piers, but I am not really sure. I want youngish teenagers to be able to have a go as well, so not too heavy.

Not sure re reels. My Dad had both. What would influence my choice? What's the difference in rings? I want to take a look at the rods I have left and see if I can work out which they are.

Thanks for helping out everyone. Any more comments very welcome.

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:54 am

Yoy don't say where you are. otherwise I would re-ring them for you. I asume that when you say light rods you mean for both you and the children. Then I would suggest something not too long seeing that you will be rock, beach and pier fishing. The rods that spring to mind are the Shakespear tide water pier rods 2.7meters in length and will cast 4 to 6oz weights.

If you intend to purchase more than one of them. then ask the price of the rod and when you get a reply offer the tackle dealer £5 less each if you buy 2 of them. For beginners I would suggest a fixed spool reel the the Shakespear Odessa that comes complete with line. And again dont be afraid to barter.

You must realise that these are not top of the range but they make very good starting point and will last for years.

Hope this helps somewhat. Best regards keith big grin

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:29 am

For the type of fishing you have stated, i would probably go for 12-13ft rod, personally for that type of fishing i use a 12ft-6in bass rod which is classed as a light beach/estuary rod and will cast 3-5oz.
The choice of reels, again with the fishing you will be doing a fixed spool would be easy to use, multi's take a bit of getting used to.
Your last question, All rods are rung for either fixed spool or multiplier reels, and as far as i am aware it is the ring spacing that is the difference, i have been told you can use fixed spool on multi rods but not the other way round i hope this helps.

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:38 am

OK folk just to clarify a few points You can use a multiplier on a fixed spool rod but you cannot use a fixed spool reel on a multiplier rod. The spacing or the rings are irrelavent, its the size of the rings that are important as when line come off a fixed spool reel it comes of in large circles and if you are using a mutiplier rod then there is every possibility of the line wrapping around the first ring and causing a snap of or even worse damaging the first ring. keith

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:58 am

rabbi2 wrote:

OK folk just to clarify a few points You can use a multiplier on a fixed spool rod but you cannot use a fixed spool reel on a multiplier rod. The spacing or the rings are irrelavent, its the size of the rings that are important as when line come off a fixed spool reel it comes of in large circles and if you are using a mutiplier rod then there is every possibility of the line wrapping around the first ring and causing a snap of or even worse damaging the first ring. keith

You mean some bar steward has been given me the wrong info lol. happy

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:44 am

Im afraid so my mate. The other thing is that it is a simple job converting one to the other by re-ringing them. So long as the new rings are in exactly the same place as the original ones. Hope this helps. keith big grin

Member Joined: Jun 23, 2008 Posts: 9

Is this a job for the amateur?

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:53 am

No definitely not. As you pointed out in your posts they were your Dads and I assume that they have quite a bit of sentimental value so you need the job to be done properly. As I said its a shame that your not in lancs as I could have done the job. Cheers keith

Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:54 am

Using a multiplier on a rod rung for a fixed spool is fine for casting, but a pointless excercise when it comes to playing fish. Fewer rings means the line will not follow the shape of the rod when bent unless you use your reels upside-down and back to front.

Member Joined: Jun 23, 2008 Posts: 9

rabbi2 wrote:

No definitely not. As you pointed out in your posts they were your Dads and I assume that they have quite a bit of sentimental value so you need the job to be done properly. As I said its a shame that your not in lancs as I could have done the job. Cheers keith

Nowhere need Lancs I am afraid!