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Wattsy Member


Joined: Aug 21, 2007 Posts: 92
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject: Southend Beach 15-05-08 |
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So, after the worst night's sleep (I didn't) I decided at about 05:30 I might as well get up have some breakfast and go fishing.
This is a Google map of where I was fishing - about halfway between the two inner markers (round things). LINK
There was very little wind, mostly from the North with probably not much East.
There was less water than I'd expected, which is to say I could still see the top of one of the outlet pipes on the beach (you can see the shadow on the left of the map) and further East I could see water lapping over some kind of bank near where the gasworks-jetty used to be. I was very flat and calm and the sky was overcast.
I put my first cast at around 07:30ish - just about in line with the furthest marker, put my rod on the tripod scratched my head and the rod-tip started rattling! There were more times than I'd like to count when I got bites as soon as I'd put the rod down (and I was standing next to the tripod!). There must have been a lot of fish out there albeit tiny ones and I was dropping the lead on top of them.
The first bite came to nothing but I soon pulled this in:
Nowhere near sizeable but certainly not what I'd called tiny (I do have big hands ).
This is all a bit hazy 'cause I've been up for over 24 hours now
I also caught this:
Not sizeable but over 30cm (well, bigger than my size 11 boot anyway).
In between those two I did catch a tiny one. I was using crab on size 2 hooks by the way - daylight made me baulk at the idea of going for biggies.
The reason that little one was interesting is that I'd found a lot of oysters washed up on the beach and decided to use one as a bait and it was oyster that it went for!
I had some better bites (not hit) on the oyster. I only wish I'd taken some elastic as it was getting ripped off easily and I think I could have connected to more if the bait had survived the initial attacks.
As the tide got higher there was a good swell which increased with the ebb.
Things were pretty constant (which is to say constantly missing bites) until about 30 minutes before HT when slack water made it quiet.
At about 30 minutes after HT there was a small rattling bite of the tiny bass type which I missed. It was then pretty quiet again for a while until I got a good drop back bite (tripped both wires on the lead) so I think that was my good one that got away 'cause I didn't connect with it
Then it started raining (properly) so I put on the last of the crab and cast out level with the furthest marker on the above map. I held out the temptation to reel in straight away as it started raining more and more (I left my waterproofs at home).
I couldn't work out if I'd had a bite or if it was the swell with weed hitting the line as I saw a series of solid thumps on the rod tip that pulled it quite a way down but could have been in time with the waves so I waited to see what would happen.
What happened was that I felt the rain dripping down my neck so I decided to reel in. There was some dead weight but I'd pulled a few crabs in already so that was what I was expecting and then I felt a thump which was quite shocking and then this appeared in the surf:
What good Southend Beach session doesn't end on a flounder?
Which brings me to a couple of observations I've made and I'd like to see what other people think.
The first is that flounder put up a surprisingly strong fight but only when they realise they really are in trouble and it doesn't last long either
The second isn't maybe an observation but the text-books will tell you that flounder leave the beach before bass when the tide goes out. The logic being that bass can swim faster and so can hang around for longer. (I'm sure I've read this somewhere and not got it the wrong way around.)
Whenever I fish the beach at Southend it's usually the other way around - my last fish is more likely to be a flounder than a bass. Has anyone else noticed this (or the text book case) at Southend or anywhere else?
Cheers,
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yungteddy Occasional


Joined: Apr 23, 2008 Posts: 142 Location: orkney
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:08 pm Post subject: well done |
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well done wattsy doesnt look like a bad session best ive caught was a 12cm pollock  |
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leggyman Occasional


Joined: Apr 30, 2008 Posts: 147 Location: Brighton Marina
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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I thought bait was dear enough anyway and now oysters come into the fray You're lucky they wash up on the beach round your way I probably see 1 a year washed up on my beaches! have always wondered if they'd make good bait since I hate eating them. I think flounder come closer in shallow water like mudflats, but bass come closer in deeper water like a shingle beach. Keep going with the oysters though and let us all know what happens  |
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Wattsy Member


Joined: Aug 21, 2007 Posts: 92
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: well done |
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| yungteddy wrote: |
well done wattsy doesnt look like a bad session best ive caught was a 12cm pollock  |
Thanks yungteddy it was a fun session (although the waterproofs would have helped!).
You'll get the bigger ones eventually. In my limited experience of fishing the beach at Southend you catch about 20 or 30 little bass for every one approaching a reasonable size. Then again I don't really target the biggies there - perhaps if I did it'd be the other way around  |
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Rockeelbalboa Member


Joined: Nov 30, 2007 Posts: 78 Location: Somewhere between Bedford and Cambridge
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Great report Wattsy - had me riveted! Sounds a good session. |
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Wattsy Member


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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| leggyman wrote: |
I thought bait was dear enough anyway and now oysters come into the fray You're lucky they wash up on the beach round your way I probably see 1 a year washed up on my beaches! have always wondered if they'd make good bait since I hate eating them. I think flounder come closer in shallow water like mudflats, but bass come closer in deeper water like a shingle beach. Keep going with the oysters though and let us all know what happens  |
I'm not sure if it's normal for them to wash up (never noticed them before but I've not been down there at this time of year much!). That said, a bloke I was talking to said he saw someone out on the mud collecting them the other day so perhaps they've moved in - it did used to be a commercial oyster fishery / farm around this way at one point if I remember correctly so I guess they like the conditions of the estuary.
Oyster Fishery History Link
I don't think I'd have considered them for bait if I hadn't found them, but when there's a big free bait to try it'd be rude not to! Also, I figured if they were being washed up then there may well be a few dead ones ground-baiting for me.
I kept the ones I didn't use and might pop back on the next tide (probably need a couple of hours sleep in between). Depending on what the wind is doing I might even try a little float fishing with a carp rod. That way, even the littleuns can give show  |
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leggyman Occasional


Joined: Apr 30, 2008 Posts: 147 Location: Brighton Marina
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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I have collected them at low tide from the crouch which is the next estuary up, am assuming this is ok since they are wild ones?? I hate the things but an ex-girlfriend loved them and i always loved what happened next  |
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thebigbassman Advanced User


Joined: Dec 13, 2007 Posts: 1755 Location: sunny port talbot in lovely wales
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| well done wattsy |
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shannock Advanced User


Joined: Apr 07, 2008 Posts: 1387 Location: sunny sheringham north norfolk
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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well done excellent report mate , enjoyed reading it even better with the added photos but remember YOUR WATERPROOFS
will expect more riviting reports now you've started
how do you get the pics so big i cant get them big also what site do you use |
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Wattsy Member


Joined: Aug 21, 2007 Posts: 92
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Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| shannock wrote: |
well done excellent report mate , enjoyed reading it even better with the added photos but remember YOUR WATERPROOFS
will expect more riviting reports now you've started
how do you get the pics so big i cant get them big also what site do you use |
Thanks for the congrats, on the reports especially (and to everyone else too if I've not said so). There'll be a few more with any luck now the bug has bitten again; I think the last time I went seriously was November last year since then it was bad weather, bad shoulder, bad winds (East) and bad fishing that put me off. But now I know it's worth going I'll be doing a few more trips
For me, the beauty of the beach is it's literally fifteen minutes walk down the road (I don't drive, but even if I did I reckon I'd still walk 'cause it'd probably take as long overall and cost me petrol too). I've even popped down there after work on a Friday, caught a few fish, gone home, popped in the shower and gone down the pub to meet my dad for a drink - that's what it's all about ha ha.
I'll be taking proper rain precautions in future, the last few days good weather and sleep deprivation caught me out this time
For the photos I use photobucket. I'm not entirely sure how they come out that size - I didn't pay that much attention lol. The original size of the photos was 1632x1224 (2-megapixels I think). I just uploaded them to photobucket and it resized them to 1024x768 on its own. Once they're uploaded they have an IMG tag you can copy to use in forums like this - you just click on it and it gets put in the clipboard which is nice!
There wasn't anything that wasn't embarrassingly small to photo yesterday so I left my phone in my pocket (although I should probably have taken photos of the mark for a complete picture and will try to remember next time).
If I can drag myself out of bed tomorrow morning I think I'll have another go for a couple of hours, this time using just the oysters ('cause I used all the crab). Not that it's an early tide tomorrow, but it was really quite nice and peaceful down there this morning, especially since it was overcast - I was hardly pestered at all (and the two blokes I spoke to weren't pests, they were anglers themselves so I didn't have to put up with blank stares when I told them what I'd caught lol).
Whether I can pull off a hat-trick is another matter - three non-blank day sessions might be pushing my luck. Although actually, I think it's mainly winter it really suffers down there during the day although nights should still be better whatever the season.
If I go, I'll let you all know how I got on ... |
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4CodsSake Advanced User


Joined: Nov 05, 2007 Posts: 857 Location: Leicester
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Nice report  |
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