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Buck2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi, I just wanted to take the oppertunity to introduce myself.

My names Rob, I've been course fishing for 20yrs but only recently started sea fishing.

I'm from Blackpool, (North West) and have been browsing this forum for hints & tips for a while prior to registering.

So far all I've caught are Rockling, & flounder, using black lugworm

Struggling a bit with the weather at the moment as I'm unable to detect bites, & 5 & 6oz weights dont stay put as the sea's so rough & high winds.

All hints tips welcome & thanks for having me.

Rob happy
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hello and welcome Buck big hug
cheers
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi, welcome to the forum

I have the same problem at the moment wind is a pain in the ass. however if you can cast in the direction of the wind it reduces the amount of bow in the line! big grin
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

welcome to the asylum buck but do you realise you can never leave devil devil devil
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

HI rob welcome to the mad hatters tea party. Try Blue Bridge at Fleetwood. Fishing is allowed if you go over the bridge. 2hrs before and 2hrs after high water is best. Distance casting is not required. Hope this helps.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Thats the prob..5 oz weighs are moving with the current, the wind & surfs moving rod tip..so bite detection is hard, I went today and tried for an hour then gave up as I wanted to strike every 2secs..wind was moving tip so much and with 5-oz weighs being moved I just couldnt tell.

I dont have expensvce gear, i have a storm carbon 12ft..or maybe 13 ft beach caster, and a cheap storm fixed spool sea reel. I have 18lb line on the reel with a 60lb shock leader, then my rigs (from another 60lb trace) a 1 hook rig on a snood of 25lb line approx 5inches up from the 5oz weight, Am using black lugworm threaded with a gemini needle up hook shank/line to a sequen & bead fixed in place with sliding knott.

Tried casting in direction of wind as you would when using a quiver tip on a lake/river but the current/wind and waves crashing up the wall made it impossible to detect a bite, and as I said it was moving the 5oz weight..again this gave the impression of a bite, so did the wind on tip and the movement of the waves.

I'd really appreciate any tips, esp at this early stage of my sea fishing so anything welcome ..thanks Rob
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

are the weights plan lead or grip weights
 
Buck2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

grip weights 4 collapsable legs.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi Buck and welcome have you thought about using braid with a fixed spool reel if you are used to freshwater then you can appreciate the smaller diameter of line and therefore less resitance I use 60lb braid which is thinner than 18ld mono but I also still tie on a leader to absord wear, hoping this helps
 
Buck2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Thats great thanks I'll look into to braid, yes I do appreciate presentaion and to be honest struggle getting my head around using such heavey gear, line hooks etc.

Cheers Rob

Ps I'm debating going tonight but high tide isnt till almost midnight and it could be as rough as today..will walk the dog later to check it out. Night time seems to bring better fish confused
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

regarding the weight situation there will be a strong under current at the moment due to the winds and fresh water coming down from the mountains (or is it always the same)

night fishing is a lot better than day fishing as yes you do catch more, you could try tonight but if its blowing and seas are the same don't wste your time wait until the weather breaks (weekend hopefully)
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi buck welcome to the forum
 
Buck2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks, in aswer to the current I've only dished calm seas so cant say if it always like this. Today was quite rough but i'll walk dog at 8:30-ish and see how its it when coming in, if wind not too bad I maybe able to fish to up tp high water..not sure?

Rob
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

ok mate all the best and tight lines
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi

When the sea and wind are rough bite detection can be almost impossible. Braid can certainly help, but due to no stretch in the line a knock on the line from the breakers will exaggerate the rod tip activity.

The best thing when fishing in rough conditions is to cast and reel in at set times, i normal do 15 - 20 mins between cast. Bait up with fresh bait and re cast. Another tactic is to fish with 2 rods that way you will have something to compare with.

Also it does not need a gusty wind or heavy sea to make the rod tip do funny things. The wong type and weight of lead and the speed of the tide being fished can all make things difficult. Here around the bristol channel the tide can really move fast and even with 6oz gripper the weight can get dragged along the sea bed resulting in a false bite.

Trial and error and experience well steer you right. Do not be afraid to experiment whenyou are out and eventually you will find the method.

cheers

lee
 
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