New left handed multiplier

Member Joined: Sep 08, 2010 Posts: 36

Guys im looking to getting a couple of multipliers for shore use. Currently using FS reels and have been doing so for ages. im very comfortable with the FS and confident casting them 70+ m

i now fancy a change and i think its time i switched over

only problem is the multiplier must be left hand wind. i dont get on with right hand wind and will never get used to it. i cant wind with my right hand and i find it awkward holding the rod with my left hand

ive looked at some reel in magazines and found Abu ambassadeur 6501 C3 and the Daiwa Millionaire Proteus

which one would you recommend or are there others i should be considering ??

any advice will be greeatly appreciated

i dont want to spend more than £100 each

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:23 pm

I had the same problem and went for a Ron Thompson Black Knight.

Si

Member Joined: Sep 08, 2010 Posts: 36

gynewguy wrote:

I had the same problem and went for a Ron Thompson Black Knight.

Si

any other details ??

how did you find it has it been reliable

Regular Joined: Dec 14, 2008 Posts: 256 Location: rochdale

If you,re looking for one to use over clean ground then the 6501c will do ok but if you,re wanting to use it over mixed ground go for the Abu Record 61HC or Inshore 6501c3. If you want a higher retrieve speed go for the Abu Revo Toro 61 HS as it has bigger stronger gears.
If you want it for rough ground with 35lb mono you,ll have to get the Abu 7001i.
Okuma Solterra 10lx or 15lx are good for rough ground too.
Also look at the Shimano Corvelus / Cardiff ? at spottydog.co.uk in the 301 or 401 sizes. Not sure of their casting abilities though. Daiwa also have some other lhw multi,s on their website at over £200 if you win the lottery.
The Daiwa millionaire is a good piece of kit but I,ve only seen it used on boats and for salmon fishing in rivers.
Also there,s the Avets but they are £150+. Look at Rokmax but you need long fingers to control them.

Regular Joined: Jul 26, 2009 Posts: 343 Location: Surrey

Problem is I believe they all have level wind - 6501 certainly does. Not ideal for beach casting

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:25 pm

Since this is my first multiplier I've nothing to compare it too. Seems ok though!

Regular Joined: Dec 14, 2008 Posts: 256 Location: rochdale

Gynewguy, the RT is a good Abu clone, and works well, but i doubt you can get spares for it.

Buttonz, what rods are you planning to use the multi,s on as if they,ve only got 5 or 6 rings you will have problems with the line rubbing on the rod blank and either Knackering the line or the blank. What sort of ground are you going to be fishing over and what sort of distances.

Iknowagoodplaice, you can always change a round Abu to a non levelwind reel if you don,t want the levelwind cos of the shockleader knot catching. Try blakdog.co.uk .Or just fish braid straight through and you,ve one less knot to collect weed. And if you get a couple of casting lessons and fish braid straight through with a decent rod you should be able to fish baits out to 120yds without too much trouble. Levelwinds only cost you 10-20% of your casting distance in realworld fishing situations.

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:20 pm

Good advice indeed, the number of people that have taken off the level wind without the conversion bar is unbelievable and of course they end up with a twisted cage, even so the distance gained with end tackle on is minute.
Cheers
keith big grin

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:13 am

Quote:

if you don,t want the levelwind cos of the shockleader knot catching

simply open the lw bars a little ,then the knot flys through

Regular Joined: Jul 26, 2009 Posts: 343 Location: Surrey

strathy and rabbi

Yes, I know you can convert them (been thinking of doing so) though not everyone wants to go to the trouble. (Pity they don't do a LH CT).

But 10-20% off distance is quite a lot, especially when a baited rig also reduces distance by a similar amount.

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:22 pm

buttonz wrote:

only problem is the multiplier must be left hand wind. i dont get on with right hand wind and will never get used to it. i cant wind with my right hand and i find it awkward holding the rod with my left hand

Are you sure? Have you tried it? I thought the same before I switched to multipliers and it doesn't make much diffrence. Just bite the bullet and go for it..it isn't as uncomfortable as you think. A lot comfier than using that coffee grinder.

Go and buy a slosh 20..casts well,nice big fast gears (6:1), smooth drag, good customer service...all for under £100.

Don't worry about people saying the gearbox is big and get's in the way for casting.. I use it reel up the rod on my bass rod(lost my coasters so use the reel clamp instead worried

) and although I have small hands I still get a good grip..just remember you don't fill them to the rim like you would a F/S

Also..stay away from braid if your just starting out with a multi. If you get a birdy then you WILL have to cut it all off. Just get some cheap 20lb line and make sure the brake blocks are fitted and you'll be fine

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:47 pm

you cast -strike with your right hand ? well the only diff will be your now wind in too with your right

i know iam a left
hand wind too

and with no levelwind your also use your left hand /thumb to guide the line.

you could buy s/h abu 6500 or sl20sh or 30 from 35-60 quid dont like it then sell it on

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:25 am

Lots of very good advice (particularly on the models available) and it has always struck me that there is very little choice for left handers compared to us righties.

To add to the melting pot, a beginner can often benefit from the extra braking effect you get from a level wind and laying the line does mean there is one less thing to worry about at the start. That being said very few anglers keep them on a beach reel for long, once you advance a bit they do start to hold you back and although the mechanism itself reduces casting distance the biggest problem is that you can't grip the spool properly when giving it some welly ... rather than a 25% reduction that often means your thumb slips during the cast resulting in a bad frap and effectively a 100% reduction in casting distance.

If you tie a good leader knot and have a clean style you shouldn't have massive problems with the level wind stopping the leader knot ... I used this setup for uptiding for years with very little trouble and if it is a worry the obvious solution is to use a tapered leader which gives you a really small knot.

I have to admit that I'm not a major fan of braid and although I know some people swear by it, it does take a level of competence to use on a casting multiplier ... personally I think that's an extra hurdle that a beginner could do without as they learn to use them.

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:35 am

Each to their own but a combination of the scarcity of LH multipliers and the fear of birdsnesting put me off multipliers for a long time.
I've personally taken to my LH multiplier well. Having my FS fall apart one session forced me into using my multiplier which I'd been putting off for ages. Having said that everyone is different I guess!

Si

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:20 am

I have used braid on a multiplier in the past and have been happy with it but have reverted to using it on a fixed spool only.

The problem that arises is that over the years braid has undergone such a change so much so that 80lb quality braid can be as thin as 12 to 15lb mono, being so thin the line tends to dig itself under the previous coils resulting in a jerky cast and a birdy.

It is great for a boat reel but as I said for a casting multiplier, a definite no, no
Cheers
keith big grin