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Member Joined: Apr 10, 2006 Posts: 56

hi guys ive just bought a second hand shimano aerocast surf 16' and the joints are as tight as a ducks backside any ideas as to how to make them slide in a little more freely?

cheers

Member Joined: Jul 25, 2009 Posts: 80 Location: n/a

hi spray the joints with furniture polish the wax in the polish might help the joints it did ok for my rod when the joints were stiff

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:07 pm

read somewhere before that scribbling on the male end with a hb pencil works too

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:08 pm

Lead graphite from a pencil will tighten it even more !!
Cheers
keith big grin

Member Joined: Apr 10, 2006 Posts: 56

ive been thinking about fine grit sand paper but the ontly problem is its got an oval blank and id rather not screw it all up in a moment of haste

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:44 pm

Dont touch it until I speak to my mate at Anglers Den as he does rod repairs and I will reply tomorrow.
Cheers
keith big grin

Member Joined: Apr 10, 2006 Posts: 56

no worries

thank you

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 3:52 pm

Spoken to Harry at Anglers Den and he says for you to make sure that there is no crap in the spigot first and if clean, thenrub down slightly with 1200 grade wet and dry and then coat it with candle wax remembering that rods are so designed so that there is a gap between the two so as to compensate for wear, In other words dont push the rod together thinking that you have to close this gap.
Hope this helps
Cheers
keith big grin

Member Joined: Apr 10, 2006 Posts: 56

it was my understanding that with it being a push in type rod rather than a spiggot type that there dosent apear 2 be a gap but is that just me being missinformed?

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:50 pm

Are the joints metal?

Member Joined: Apr 10, 2006 Posts: 56

the female part of the joints have metal collers

Member Joined: Sep 11, 2009 Posts: 96

Before you start spraying it with stuff, try bringing it into the house and leave it in the open to dry out for a couple of days. It might be a bit of damp in the joints and after its dried out should go together perfectly.

Member Joined: Apr 10, 2006 Posts: 56

sadly it is dry i havnt had chance to use it yet so that 1 is a no goer im afraid

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:27 am

mbmailler wrote:

sadly it is dry i havnt had chance to use it yet so that 1 is a no goer im afraid

You might think it is but be surprised ... if its been in the central heating for a week or so you are safe that it isn't damp joints. There should be a gap of about half an inch in an ideal world but it can be a bit more or less and I wouldn't worry so long as 70% of the male goes into the female side - remember as well that it will wear in with use.

I'd echo the comments about cleaning the joint (use meths or warm soapy water) and the rubbing down with wet 1000 grit or above, but .... never use wax on a parallel carbon joint for 2 reasons.

1/ theres a very strong body of opinion that it causes premature wear by holding carbon dust on its surface and then behaving like grinding paste every time you put the spigot together or take it apart. It will seem fine but eventually, in my experience, they tend to suddenly go loose.

2/ it will build up the surface, make the spigot tighter ... which is pretty daft as you are trying to cure an overtight spigot! No point in rubbing it down to make it fit, then making it tight again.

The idea of candle wax or wax polish on your joint goes back to the days of glass fibre tapered joints ... it stopped them from sticking. The best treatment for parallel joints is keeping them clean and dry.

Member Joined: Apr 10, 2006 Posts: 56

so with the wet and dry whats the chances of me messin things up with it being an oval blank?