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floundering
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi guys

Am after some advise please i have never used a shockleader and really i wouldnt no what benifits that they give a fisherman could someone give me some help? are they worth having if so what is the best type/make of shockleader you can buy.
Any help would be great thanks.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

alreet mate, basically a shockleader takes the impact during a cast, a shockleader should be 10x the weight of the sinker you are using,i.e if using a 5oz sinker use 50lb shockleader.Any type of power casting requires a shockleader even if using 30lb line straight through, the only downside to using a shockleader is when fishing rough ground, or there is plenty kelp about, is that the knot can catch on the kelp thereby resulting in you being snagged.When attaching my shockleader i use the bimini twist with a blob knot then superglued to get rid of any tag ends, helping eliminate kelp gathering around the knot
 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

ahh ok i now see mate thanks for the help mate am thinking of giving it ago at the weekend sunday looks good what is the best type of shockleader ? as in the make? cheers for the help medlar

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi floundering,

I was the same as you about 2 weeks ago, i thought it was just something that a pro would use and that it was not realy required until i noticed my line was braking alot when i did a realy big power cast. So i decided it was time to purchase some Shockleader from a shop in Whitby. The chap sold me some 'Shakespear Omni X' in red and told me it was one of the best makes and so far he has been spot on, hasnt troubled me yet and has put alot more confidence into my casting.

Dev big grin
 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

hmm i will look into it i think it will be of benifit to me many thanks mate.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi floundering

with the shockleader you should use a length of twice your rod length plus 6 turns around your reel.

As to the weight of the shockleader i use 10 times the sinker weight plus another 10 lb

hope this helps

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

dickyp wrote:
Hi floundering

with the shockleader you should use a length of twice your rod length plus 6 turns around your reel.

As to the weight of the shockleader i use 10 times the sinker weight plus another 10 lb

hope this helps

dickyp


the length of shockleader is, 6 turns on your reel, length of the rod Plus the drop you normally have when casting. there are too many brands of shockleader to name, but suffix do a good one as do greys,berkely etc, tapered leaders are a bit better as they give smaller knots
 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

What a lot of folk tend to forget is that when they make up their own traces the trace must be equal to the strength of the shockleader other wise it becomes the weakest link. (fogive the pun) big grin big grin big grin


Cheers keith big grin big grin
 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Alot of vital information there i would of made a hash of it i though you just put on any length shockleader i new about the weight ratio but nothing about the length thanks for letting me know guys your help is much appricated.

Many thanks

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

rabbi2 wrote:
What a lot of folk tend to forget is that when they make up their own traces the trace must be equal to the strength of the shockleader other wise it becomes the weakest link. (fogive the pun) big grin big grin big grin


Cheers keith big grin big grin


you are correct mate, i forgot to add that, i use 60lb leader, 80lb rig body and 60lb snood, unless i am fishing light obviously
 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Am writing this down so i don't forget lol quick question about mussels for bait
it might sound like a daft question but do mussels need to be cooked or can you use raw for bait? as i opend a mussel before and well it was just gunky when raw lol

any help would be great.

cheers

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:19 am Reply with quote Back to top

I just use a heavier mono of what ever I have on hand. I don't think buying a particular brand just for shock leader makes a big difference.

10 lbs of test for every one oz of weight
length of shocker = 2x reel to tip top + 6 turns on the spool winking
 
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

floundering wrote:
Am writing this down so i don't forget lol quick question about mussels for bait
it might sound like a daft question but do mussels need to be cooked or can you use raw for bait? as i opend a mussel before and well it was just gunky when raw lol

any help would be great.

cheers

floundering


the way i prepair my mussles is to get a bucket full then pour boiling water on them it doesnt cook them as such but i does open them slightly and firms them up
 
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:32 am Reply with quote Back to top

ahh i see many thanks for the info mate.

cheers

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:22 am Reply with quote Back to top

My setup from reel to trace is as follows:-

15lb Daiwa Tournament Main Line (Yellow)
60lb Greased Weasel Leader (Orange) - the best leader in my opinion.
40lb Amnesia Main Rig Body (Black/Clear)
25lb Amnesia Hook Snoods (Clear)

I use this for all locations around the East Coast and it is fine, never had the need to match Main Rig Body to Leader in over 20 years, saying that never used a Shock Leader till this year when learnt to OTG cast as always fished straight through with 20-30lb Main Line.

Tapered leaders are good, bit pricey as you only get normally five on a spool but are ideal for F/S and L/W reels.


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