Rods and Reels

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:06 pm

Hi
I would like to know if the rod and reel i am using is any good.

I have a john Wilson beachcaster 12ft 4-6oz casting weight
my reel is a fladen vantage 880 multiplier armed with 28lb zebco clear line.

I see most anglers with greys rods etc (big expensive rods to me) i would basically like to know what these more top of the range rods give you longer casting, more durable ?? what makes them better and is it worth buying one or stick to what i have.

Any replys would be welcome.

cheers
floundering

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:17 pm

like everything in life mate, you get what you pay for, clean beaCH FISHING AND PIER FISHING YA ROD AND REEL ARE OK, GOING INTO MIXED OR HEAVY GROUND AND YOUR ROD AND REEL WILL NOT COPE AT ALL.
sorry didnt realise cap lock was on

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:25 pm

no problem thanks for the info the place a fish the most is really rocky and aslong as a don't have a drag sinker on my rig its fine it gets out of most snags but anyway il stick to the more clear areas to avoid any major trouble.

Thanks for the help mate.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:30 pm

floundering wrote:

no problem thanks for the info the place a fish the most is really rocky and aslong as a don't have a drag sinker on my rig its fine it gets out of most snags but anyway il stick to the more clear areas to avoid any major trouble.

Thanks for the help mate.

you could always just add a rotten bottom system to your rigs mate, that way you should really only lose a sinker

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:55 pm

ok thanks how do i do this rotten bottom system ? could you let me know please.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:05 pm

A rotten bottom is a lenth of line fastened to your weight of a lower breaking strain than your main line.
Cheers keith big grin

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:08 pm

ahh i see il give it ago il try and make up a rig now.
cheers mate.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:08 pm

Hi Keith

Pardon my ignorance but wouldn't this outdo the purpose of the shock leader ?

dickyp

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:13 pm

Yes you are perfectly right and it would only take a gentle cast unless you were using heavy mainline.

The object of the exercise would be for the line to the weight, breaking if it were to get stuck in rocks or some other obstruction rathere than the mainline parting and thereby losing the trace rig as well as the weight.
Cheers keith big grin

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:15 pm

rabbi2 wrote:

A rotten bottom is a lenth of line fastened to your weight of a lower breaking strain than your main line.
Cheers keith big grin

not quite correct mate, otherwise that lower breaking starin line would snap off when casting.

Go to your tackle shop and ask for Gemini quick release links, or just ask for rotten bottoms. if you attach a genie link to the end of your rig body to attach a sinker, put the rotten bottom link onto the genie link without the sinker, then tie some 10-12 lb line to your gemini clip, the other end of the weak line to the sinker, then clip the sinker to the rotten bottom.
when you cast, the rotten bottm clip takes the strain strain, but upon hitting the water the rotten bottom link releases the sinker, therefore if you are snagged, you pull sharply which breaks the weak line, leaving your sinker where it is but ensuring you get your rig back

a gemini quick release clip

a rig with a home made rotten bottom system

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:17 pm

Thanks medlar for explaining it better than I could have put it.
Cheers keith big grin

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:18 pm

rabbi2 wrote:

Thanks medlar for explaining it better than I could have put it.
Cheers keith big grin

no probs Keith mate

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:20 pm

am going to give it a go see what happens.
thanks for the diagram.

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:29 pm

floundering wrote:

am going to give it a go see what happens.
thanks for the diagram.

welcome mate, just remember whatever link you choose to use should be able to take the force of the cast without releasing the sinker until it hits the water, otherwise its a serious accident waiting to happen when that sinker flies off and hits someone

Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:34 pm

yeah i no its deadly when you get snap offs if that accidently hits someone thats it il make sure that its strong enough.