Bait clips for OTG casting

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:19 pm

I have nearly got the hang of a decent OTG cast. However when it come to using the cast with a baited rig the snoods often fall out of the bait clip/shield. Does anyone have some tips on overcoming this and suggesting the best method for keeping the rig in tact before the cast.

Thanks

Richard

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 6:07 pm

when i am using the otg cast i always hang my baits from my grip lead but this means your snoods need to hang below the weight when hanging loose or they wont reach the lead

Dave big grin

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 6:49 pm

i find the best clips for off ground cast is the beakaway imp,when laying sinker on ground try to keep line tight, hope this helps ian

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 7:37 am

Thanks for the tips.

I was thinking of using an SRT spring to help keep everything under tension - has anyone tried this?

Richard

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:35 am

fi you keep too much tension on the rig it might not release on impact with the water

Dave big grin

Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 8:42 am

Yes I use them happy

If you are clipping a rig down I guess you are looking at distance fishing?, If thats the case I find after a couple of power casts the snoods can stretch and using SRT solves that problem winking

Also using an impact shield helps happy

Be careful though as Jacko69 has already mentioned, if you are casting short range you do run the risk of the bait not releasing with this system.
cheers
mrix

Joined: Jul 31, 2009 Posts: 4 Location: Londonderry

If the trace is tied correctly it should always release no matter what range yuo are fishing at.

The SRT and impact sheild or lead is your best bet for a release everytime.

Another method ive seen used is a small square of wood placed on the beach with the lead set on it for casting worked very well.

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:28 am

Another trick i saw somebody using on my local beach, was to cast from pretty much the same spot each time, but he wasnt using a piece of wood, he used a 3-4ft length of guttering, as a sort of "launch chute" to stop the grip wires on the lead from snagging on the ground a give a nice smooth cast.
As I watched him use it, it seemed to do a good job

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:32 pm

have you tried the dvice briliant piece of kit.

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:08 pm

I started off with OTG casting a while back but had the same problem. Then I discovered John Holden's "airialised" version of the OTG cast where instead of resting the sinker on the deck you simple let it swing back behind you (3 o'clock position) until it reaches the point of maximum swing then begin your forward swing into the cast. Takes a bit of practice but a great cast for making sure that everything stays put on a clipped down rig before you sling it skywards.

Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:46 am

chrisandrich wrote:

Thanks for the tips.

I was thinking of using an SRT spring to help keep everything under tension - has anyone tried this?

Richard

I use them to get over this problem, use them with a breakway impact lead and you can really clip them tight and they still come unclipped. For multi-hooked rigs use a breakaway cascade swivel as the snood swivel of the hook below. You can clip all your snoods up tight and they all come unclipped 100% of the time.

I always use a powergum stop-knot instead of a crimp (the lower crimp of each swivel). This allows you to adjust the distance when you change snoods/hooks on the rig. You can always ensure that the snood is clipped up nice and tightly this way.

Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:27 am

Thanks for all the tips. Will try them out and post which I find to be the most successful.

Richard

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:35 am

When you next pop into a tackle shop, Keep your eyes open for the new gemini weights. They have a inbuilt bait clip similar to an impact lead, but made in a different way. They're made so that the hook will not come off the clip until the weight hits the water, even if the line becomes slack! Real good idea and they work well for otg casting.
Only thing is they are a bit more expensive than normal breakout weights, at about £2 a pop. So best off used on clean beaches i would think big grin

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:00 am

Yep, I use those breakaway sinkers but I wish they would make the bait clip hooks a tad longer. I use the 125 gramme "blue" size most of the time and I like the fact that they use stainless wire so they last absolutely ages. My local tackle shop only charges £1.30 for that size so I think anyone charging £2 is doing a rip off.

Member Joined: Oct 22, 2009 Posts: 56 Location: Felixstowe

eccles wrote:

Yep, I use those breakaway sinkers but I wish they would make the bait clip hooks a tad longer. I use the 125 gramme "blue" size most of the time and I like the fact that they use stainless wire so they last absolutely ages. My local tackle shop only charges £1.30 for that size so I think anyone charging £2 is doing a rip off.

they're not breakaways- they are Gemini splash downs-a new type of sinker and clip that wont release until the lead hits the water- they dont do them in 125 gr- only 150gr at present