Wire patenosters

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:49 pm

Sorry for the delay in a reply chaps , I've only just seen the posts.
electrolysis does not require a battery, it requires a chemical reaction, hence acid or alkali batteries (which only store a charge) there are plenty of chemical reactions that can generate an electrical current or heat or light,and if anyone is wondering where these chemicals come from, try sea water, it has a large number of elements in it, all desolved from rock salts.Also a little note for mudlark electrolysis is a method of seperating compounds and not of generating electricity. Where do they get this rubbish from? devil

The way its generated with wire is by simple oxidisation which is a form of chemical reaction very similar to slowly burning the material, in the same way that energy is released when wood or paper is burned. This would never be cost effective for generating electricity, but thats not the issue, the issue is can fish sence electricity, which they undoubtedly can, and some do generate all by themselves and without the aid of a battery.

Occasional Joined: Jun 29, 2008 Posts: 220

bucko wrote:

Sorry for the delay in a reply chaps , I've only just seen the posts.
electrolysis does not require a battery, it requires a chemical reaction, hence acid or alkali batteries (which only store a charge) there are plenty of chemical reactions that can generate an electrical current or heat or light,and if anyone is wondering where these chemicals come from, try sea water, it has a large number of elements in it, all desolved from rock salts.Also a little note for mudlark electrolysis is a method of seperating compounds and not of generating electricity. Where do they get this rubbish from? devil

Well thanks for that professor , I suggest you go read the thread again, properly - that way you won't mis-quote me again!

a) I didn't bring the subject of electrolosys up ...

b) I never said it was about generating electricity, just that it wouldn't happen with a single wire boom, which as you are so clever you will already know ......

Just out of interest, which end of a SINGLE boom would be the negative end then? ..... oh and you don't need a chemical reaction to take place to bring about electrolysis (its actually the desired outcome), its just that some chemical reactions cause electricity to be generated .... electricity being, as I said earlier, required.

Stop getting sniffy and trying to be a smart arse becauss someone told you your wonderful theory wouldn't work..... if you want to catch more fish, get reliable kit, learn how to use it, use the best bait you can and learn about the fish you are after .... you'll get a lot more fish that way than relying on some hair brained theory based on a wire boom attracting fish by electricity!

I'm off to talk to the dog, his theories are much more sensible.

Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:49 pm

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Stop getting sniffy and trying to be a smart arse becauss someone told you your wonderful theory wouldn't work..... if you want to catch more fish, get reliable kit, learn how to use it, use the best bait you can and learn about the fish you are after .... you'll get a lot more fish that way than relying on some hair brained theory based on a wire boom attracting fish by electricity!

The theory of electric being giving off by wire booms in salt water as I said before has been around for years... who here has the qualification to say if it does or it doesn't confused

If people wish to try it then good on them, if sea anglers get results from it whether it be from the bait sitting hard down on the bottom or the metal surface just attracts fish or it may even give off electric in what ever form good luck to them happy

Chill out people happy

cheers
mrix

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:05 am

OK Mudlark, ask the dog which end of the electric eel is the positive end and which is the negative. big grin

You'll positively get a negative response from him. big grin

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 7:22 am

Ok lads. I think the subject has been well covered. Thanks for ALL your replies.

It seems that some of you lads do still use the 'old bed springs' lol big grin

I sugest that the subject be laid to rest.

Cheers keith big grin

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:20 am

If wire patt`s got the fish biting as much as we did on this thread the freezer would be full ! Little bits of twisted wire , knots, baits...............
Angling must have more subjects people can argue/bicker about than any other sport . big grin

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bucko wrote:

OK Mudlark, ask the dog which end of the electric eel is the positive end and which is the negative. big grin

You'll positively get a negative response from him. big grin

The dog says its the head end.

The electric eel generates electricity from specially developed nerve cells which behave like dry cell batteries and are contained in pairs of organs in the eel's body - he thinks you'll find that they can generate something like 600 volts or thereabouts......

...... shocking innit?

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:53 pm

Not shocking. Re-volting big grin