Wire patenosters

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:09 am

Does anyone still use them? I know that they were clumsy and dificult to store away but they worked and were especially suitable for pier fishing.

I have a jig for making them thanks to happy chris and use ordinary bycicle spokes because they are stainless and can be obtained for nowt from old bike wheels and such.

Cheers keith big grin

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:37 am

Yes mate I do, especially when muckin' about in our little dinghy. I think they are a great way of ensuring that the snood pays out in the tide without tangling provided you don't let the rig drop down too fast. I also use the little short twisted booms on my specially designed sole rigs.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:10 pm

Hello Keith, Yes I also use them because they work well.
Also stainless steel or steel in salt water produces a slight electric current that fish can sence. happy

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:14 pm

bucko wrote:

Also stainless steel or steel in salt water produces a slight electric current that fish can sence. happy

Please explain how that works. My knowledge of batteries says you need two different metals as well as an electrolyte in order to get a current flowing.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:22 pm

Im not sure myself but I do believe that salt does have a chemical re-action on metals, wether this would be enough to create an elecrical current is a different matter. Cheers keith

Occasional Joined: Jun 29, 2008 Posts: 220

bucko wrote:

Hello Keith, Yes I also use them because they work well.
Also stainless steel or steel in salt water produces a slight electric current that fish can sence. happy

where does all this rubbish come from?

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:15 am

I would have thought the old brass booms would have produced a small electrical charge that might be picked up by sole. Does electrolosis happen in alloy such as stainless steel, if so wouldn`t the stainless corrode .
A lot of sole anglers use small metal booms so be it electrical or the extra weight holding the bait down to the seabed where the fish are, they work.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:46 am

I catch a few sole most years, doesn't seem to make any difference what booms I use sometimes plastic sometimes metal. Conclusion: It's a load of tosh, sole are interested in only one thing - a fat lugworm nailed to the deck.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:48 am

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Also stainless steel or steel in salt water produces a slight electric current that fish can sence

Many tend to use wire booms fishing for Flounder, As for the comment on electrical current, its been known for years thats some fish are attracted to it. winking

If its true or not, I have no idea confused

but there is a fair bit of reading over the net about it.
cheers

mrix

Occasional Joined: Jun 29, 2008 Posts: 220

I hate to dissappoint everybody but you won't get electrolysis off a plain peice of metal .... that much I can remember from Physics at school. You'll note from the below that a boom has one component required missing .... unless of course you are going to wire the the boom up to the mains or a battery!!!!

"The main components required to achieve electrolysis are:

A liquid containing mobile ions - an electrolyte (most metals have these in small quantitys but not enough to produce any current)
An external source of direct electric current
Two solid rods or plates known as electrodes

You get electrolysis off boat parts that are connected to the electronics but not off a plain wire boom.

There was a whole host of research about the attraction of electrical currents to fish based on how their nervious system worked but on a plain wire boom you ain't got an electrical current.

The one reason why wire booms sometime catch more than a nylon pat is simply that they keep the bait hard on the bottom where a lot of fish want it.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:43 pm

Thanks for a good reply. My schooling was not up to much and as for phisics?/ well what can I say? Lol
Cheers keith big grin

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Here be physics :-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_battery winking

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 12:56 pm

Glad you found that stowaway il always carry a few lemon's in the car now incase of the battery going flat big grin

tightlines
Gary

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:20 pm

[quote="mudlark"]

There was a whole host of research about the attraction of electrical currents to fish based on how their nervious system worked but on a plain wire boom you ain't got an electrical current.

The one reason why wire booms sometime catch more than a nylon pat is simply that they keep the bait hard on the bottom where a lot of fish want it.[/quote]

So it must be the magnetic fluxes then . big grin

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sniggle wrote:

mudlark wrote:

There was a whole host of research about the attraction of electrical currents to fish based on how their nervious system worked but on a plain wire boom you ain't got an electrical current.

The one reason why wire booms sometime catch more than a nylon pat is simply that they keep the bait hard on the bottom where a lot of fish want it.

So it must be the magnetic fluxes then . big grin

The definition of a Cod magnet ..... "a big lump of squid and lug" big grin