please help sea or fresh rod

Member Joined: Oct 10, 2008 Posts: 18

can anyone help im also a fresh water fisherman my best fish pike 28lbs beats my sea record of only six pound which was a bass at deal does anyone else use there carp rods for sea fishing as my sea rod i cant really tell bites as i have a thick rod im askin is it wise to use this rod or should i go back to my sea rod incase i hit a nice fish as i know my carp rod can take up to 28lbs pike thanks i hope you can help...

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:56 am

If your carp rod can handle a big pike and you can cast it say up to 100 yds, I would say keep going mate. Being a retired accountant (LOL), why spend money if you don't need to. I don't do freshwater but the only other matter I would mention is can the rings and reel clamp on your rod stand up to a bit of salt water? Actually, I always sponge off my rods and reels with fresh water when I get home anyway so it's not that big an issue for me. Some folk spend a lot of money on supposedly fabulous sea reels and rods but it doesn't make a lot of difference to catching fish in my experience.

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:32 am

I use a carp rod whenever conditions are right for boat and beach , small fish are more fun and big fish are very exciting. Another plus is you halve the weigh of the leads you carry (3oz max not 8oz). You still need a good beach rod to cope with wind and weed , the carp rod just isn`t powerfull enough for that.

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 3:55 pm

The only way i would use a carp rod is for flounder fishing or mullet work(i never use more than a 2oz lead) do not use it to beach cast as these rods are not designed to sling the sort of wieghts you use on the beach...Just my opinon winking

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:34 pm

I Agree a carp rod is not designed for casting 8oz weights from a beach, however there is still time for someone out there to prove us wrong lol big grin

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:30 pm

A carp rod may not be designed to cast an 8oz lead but they will lob a half pound mackerel far enough out for a big bass to find it. big grin

sniggle

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:25 pm

well if Henry Gilbey can catch a 40lb cod off Norway on a spinning rod there's hope for us all !! lol

Sue

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 7:40 pm

The problem with carp rods is that the blanks were never designed to use the tip for bite detection.

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:19 am

sniggle wrote:

A carp rod may not be designed to cast an 8oz lead but they will lob a half pound mackerel far enough out for a big bass to find it. big grin

sniggle

10 yards then winking

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:29 am

Hey sue just wondering what you have caught on your sinning rod as mine is the same rod and my best was that 10lb salmon? Cheers keith big grin

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:23 am

[quote="rabbi2"]Hey sue just wondering what you have caught on your SINNING ROD as mine is the same rod and my best was that 10lb salmon? Cheers keith big grin

[/quote]

Thought that fish was legal Rab.............poaching ? winking

.....sniggle

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:13 am

skyline_freak wrote:

can anyone help im also a fresh water fisherman my best fish pike 28lbs beats my sea record of only six pound which was a bass at deal does anyone else use there carp rods for sea fishing as my sea rod i cant really tell bites as i have a thick rod im askin is it wise to use this rod or should i go back to my sea rod incase i hit a nice fish as i know my carp rod can take up to 28lbs pike thanks i hope you can help...

No way can you use a carp rod unless you just hanging a bait over the side of a pier or jetty, a carp rod just aint designed to cast any more than about 1 oz of lead also rivers do not have 4 knots of tide running through them, I seen guys using carp rods and to put it mildly they are bloody lethal when they try to chuck out 8 oz lead probably combined with a string of feathers no leader ect, if you want to try sea fishing on the cheap there are pleanty of shops selling a cheap combos 12` rod and F/S reels for about £30.00 that way you or anybody else within 1/2 mile should not get an 8 oz lead in the ear and possibly save you a load of grief

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:48 am

No way can you use a carp rod unless you just hanging a bait over the side of a pier or jetty, a carp rod just aint designed to cast any more than about 1 oz of lead also rivers do not have 4 knots of tide running through them, I seen guys using carp rods and to put it mildly they are bloody lethal when they try to chuck out 8 oz lead probably combined with a string of feathers no leader ect, if you want to try sea fishing on the cheap there are pleanty of shops selling a cheap combos 12` rod and F/S reels for about £30.00 that way you or anybody else within 1/2 mile should not get an 8 oz lead in the ear and possibly save you a load of grief[/quote]
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Yes you can use carp rods, many will cast 3ozs easily, rivers can have a lot more than 4 knots run and the best beach outfit made will be lethal without a shockleader.You just need a bit of skill with lighter gear and most coarse anglers moving to sea generally have it.

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:17 am

I think we may have some mis-leading information here. Very few sea anglers try to cast 8 ozs of lead from the beach. 3 to 5 oz sinkers are far more common. You do not necessarily need a shockleader unless you are doing power casting. In fact I often lob a 3 oz sinker out around 50 - 60 yds without a shockleader and just using 20lb BS line. I cannot remember the last time I had a "crack-off" or line snap with this procedure. That said, I also often cast a 5 oz lead with a power cast in excess of 100 yds and of course in that case I am using a suitable carbon beach rod rated up to 8 ozs and with a 60lb BS shockleader

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:13 pm

To be honest i think fishing safely on the beach is a major issue for me as i am a member of a fishing club, a shockleader is an absolute must,i wouldnt even consider throwing out a lead 60 yards without one,i know that people say well i havent cracked off yet but tbh the risk isnt worth it,now having a shockleader doesnt mean you wont crack off,however its got to be better than without one surely winking

If your going to beach fish then use a beach fishing set-up like its been stated outfits aint that expensive and theres always car boots and various other places you can pick up a bargin,as i have put i only use a carp rod for close in flounder work or float fishing for mullet happy