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codhavemercy
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Joined: Sep 10, 2008
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Location: east kent

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

does anyone have any brand preference with ready made rigs ? mate of mine swears by Greys, and wont touch any others ! am i trying to re-invent the wheel by trying to make my own ? are the ready made's getting so good that its pointless trying ?? your helpful insights would be much appreciated !! big grin
 
GaryBadd
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 7:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

hi mate

a few years back i was doing 8-12 session 3-4 times aweek plus comps and i found it cheaper in the long run to buy in bulk a lot of tackle shops now will give you discount for bulk shopping , ready made rigs are ok and you can copy them yourself but , i say trust no-one and do them yourself least your know the braking strain on snoods and rig line . As for names id swear by gemini rigs but buy the kit and your can also make them yourself.

tightlines and gl on your choice
Gary
 
cuckoo
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Joined: Aug 28, 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ill echo gazzas choice , gemini all the time , most other pre made rigs are poorly tied , hence having to re tie all the knots your self , defeafts the object , just as well have made your own from scratch ,
 
h4ppy-chris
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Joined: Sep 14, 2008
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Location: Burnley

PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

you carn't beat the buzz you get from catching a fish on a rig you've maded your self big grin
kindest regards chris
 
slipperyeel
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Joined: Jun 03, 2008
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Location: East Yorkshire (withernsea) Peddle Power

PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:09 am Reply with quote Back to top

i have always used my own home made rigs, as h4ppy-chris said it is a buzz to get a fish on your own made rigs happy me in my honest opinion would never trust a rig i did not make myself big grin

and there is nothing like tinkering with rigs while waiting to go fishing

Carl.
 
rabbi2
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

A lot of rigs are made to look pretty but catch anglers, that is not to say that they dont work most of them do. Like the posts before me make your own, save money and use well proven designs. Cheers keith
 
Ace-of-spads
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Location: Sheffield

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:30 am Reply with quote Back to top

I picked up the Bennets Sea Catalog yesterday and there's a section near the back with lots of Greys rigs of all differtent patterns.

The interesting thing is that they've printed a diagram of each of the rigs comlpete with swivels and hook sizes, line ratings and lengths between each component.

In essence its a DIY guide to rig making. so if you wanted to make up some rigs just note down what bits you need from the diagrams and off you go to your local tackle shop.

For now I'll be using commercial rigs until I get used to sea angling.
 
flattiefanatic
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:35 am Reply with quote Back to top

I always make my own rigs,as you always get that great feeling when you catch with them,there are some good people that make rigs moonfleet is one of them winking
 
andiroo
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:22 am Reply with quote Back to top

I always make my own.

I feel its part of the whole sport and enjoyable to sit there mmaking them yourself!

Andi
 
medmick
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Joined: Nov 17, 2008
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Location: Gillingham

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi all just been reading throughsome bits on here and since i stared fishing and now know how rigs can be done i will be purchasing the raw materials to make my own rigs. Being a newbie im still learning as i go along and im still stuck on line requirements. I have got 20lb line on my reel. all ive done in the past is tied a swivel onto the reel line and then the shop rig the othere end adding a 4 oz weight. This did the trick on sunday at the strand so i will stick with it for now until i know more. big grin big grin
 
rabbi2
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Put a length of shockleader on before you attatch the trace otherwise you could kill someone.

The length needs to be 6 turns around the reel plus the length of the rob and the shockleader need to be 10lb for evety oz weight you use, example 5oz weight = 50lb line strength of shockleader. cheers keith big grin big grin big grin big grin
 
Trull
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Joined: Mar 18, 2007
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Location: Newtonhill, Aberdeenshire

PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

For the benefit of anyone reading this post later:

Please use a shockleader - I nearly got hit by a "crack-off" last year. I (politely) reminded the angler that he should use a decent shocker. If it had hit me I may have been hospitalised or quite possibly killed. You have more impact energy in a 4 or 6oz lead weight than a slug from an airgun...

Besides which its easier to cast if you are on a f/s reel.
 
malcb56
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Joined: Nov 07, 2008
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Location: manchester (swinton)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Trull wrote:
For the benefit of anyone reading this post later:

Please use a shockleader - I nearly got hit by a "crack-off" last year. I (politely) reminded the angler that he should use a decent shocker. If it had hit me I may have been hospitalised or quite possibly killed. You have more impact energy in a 4 or 6oz lead weight than a slug from an airgun...

Besides which its easier to cast if you are on a f/s reel.
still quite new to sea fishing and keep hearing about shockleaders any advice please what are they and how to use them ?
 
dickyp
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi Malcb56


See rabbi2 previous posts, he gives good advise.

As regards to what a shock leader does, if the line is going to snap under the strain of casting, it will be in the first 10 metres or so of the weight, basically it takes the "shock" in the line.

As Rabbi2 says it is normally a line 10 x the lead weight but some also advise adding another 10lb as a safety factor.

Good hunting

dickyp
 
andiroo
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Location: Ramsgate

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 7:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

A shockleader is just a length of line attatched to the end of your main line which has a higher breaking strain for instence I use 20lb main line but 60lb shockleader.

The idea is that it takes the strain of the cast and prevents the line breaking and the lead flying off during the cast.

My personal preference is for 60lb greased weasel shockleader (about £3 for 40m)

just attatch to main line then use about 2x the length of the rod.

Andi
 
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